MrsRam Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Can you be asked to get into work 15 minutes before you're due to start - for a 'briefing' and not be paid for it - then be told to go out on and work, before the 15 minutes is up? Asking for a friend.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 You want the job , or not , MrsRam ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsRam Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 No, unless I get paid for the full 15......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Slightly different, but in my job I have to be there and ready to work 20 mins before my shift starts then leave 10 mins after it finishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 itsa rip-off imo .. My missus works 2 hours , every other day , gets there at least 20 mins before shift starts , and leaves up to 10 minutes after shift ends , gets moaned at if she encroaches on these 'free' time periods .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 In my job we work 8 hour shifts from 14.30 - 22.30 and then we are expected to restart the next shift at 7.00 - 15.00. Sometimes we do the sleep in duty. We do that 3 times in a row. We also don't have breaks. If all of us expressed out right to having our 15 minute break and 11 hours between shifts, well, I don't know what would happen, but the care system would be even more on it's arse than it already is. Oh, we are also expected to come in on our days off for team meetings regardless if we are parents or not. If not, tough ****, reprimand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I do 6-2,10-6(nights) and 2-10 alternate weeks. I have to be there 10 minutes before for brief. But we finish any work ten minutes before end of shift. We still clock out on the dot though. Got no problem with it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsRam Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 So, being told to get to work 15 minutes before the shift starts - for a brief - then a 5 minute brief - then off you go ... oh and getting bollocked for being 'late' when you're actually not... I'm obviously in a pedantic mood tonight lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsRam Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Not bothered about the being there 15 minutes beforehand - or even getting bollocked for it if we're late - but I don't think we should be made to work during it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Wasn't there an EU directive on being paid for travel time between home and work or did I get it completely wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicME85 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Being there 15mins before your shift is standard practice isn't it? Been a few years since I worked but it was the norm to do that so you were on site and prepared to start your shift in case there was any hand over or paperwork etc that you needed to do beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsRam Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Yes but to be told you have to be and bollocked if you're not? Is it standard practice? I'm obviously out the loop here - It's not me but my 17 year old daughter and I just feel she's getting a lot of ***** when she doesn't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Do they get paid by the hour? Pretty sure if they're paid by the hour they don't have to do anything outside of the hours they're being paid, unless the contract says otherwise anyroad. So if you're not paid for your break go to the pub. What can they do? Also, does their contract say what their start time is? I've worked jobs where I'm asked to come in early on my own time for a handover. I never do. Even if I'm there early I'd rather sit in the car park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsRam Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 She gets paid by the hour, not the first 15 minutes of the shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, MrsRam said: She gets paid by the hour, not the first 15 minutes of the shift. I'd double check her contract to see what the start time is. If it says it's an 8 O'clock start for example then surely it's there in black and white. Don't quote me on it but if it's anything like my experiences I think she's getting taken for a ride by people who should know better. Is it a care job by the way? There's so much attempted emotional blackmail in that line of work. You've got to be a bit blunt with them sometimes or they'll take advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsRam Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 No it's not a care job - i've been there and done that and won't let my kids go there. It's a part time job and she got upset today when she asked about it and got a bit of stick for it. I'm proud of her for sticking up for herself but feel **** when she comes home crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Just now, MrsRam said: No it's not a care job - i've been there and done that and won't let my kids go there. It's a part time job and she got upset today when she asked about it and got a bit of stick for it. I'm proud of her for sticking up for herself but feel **** when she comes home crying. Well fair play to her for having the courage to stick up for herself at that age. A lot of younguns wouldn't dare and would just crumble under pressure. I'm no legal eagle so don't want to make out I am and say anything that could get her in trouble. Citizens advice could probably clarify her position for her. - Just seen she's 17 so wouldn't be able to do care anyway. Thats just reminded me of someone I knew who worked in a kitchen at a nursing home. She disclosed her age as 16 or 17 so they were aware, but they overlooked it and paid her minimum wage for those aged 22 rather than the reduced rate for youngsters. When they realised their mistake they 'made her' work for free until she'd paid off what she 'owed them'. There's people out there who'll really try it on with young people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Doesn't sound right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsRam Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 No it's not right. They don't treat any of them right tbf. I just thought i'd ask you lot - always full of opinions n stuff. As long as she's in the right - she'll be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarboroughwa Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Say you're working from 10.00 to 12.00. If the boss wants a 15 minute briefing, that goes from 10.00 to 10.15 and then you commence work or as soon as the briefing is over. You get there a few minutes before the briefing at say 9.45 to be respectful and conscientious, but you enter the briefing at 10.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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