Guest Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 9 hours ago, McLovin said: You don't have to be an expert to see how overrated Stones is ....... The only people who are over rating him are the people slagging him off. I've not seen anyone saying he is world class or the finished article, just that he has the potential to go on to become these. Do you think you are more of an expert that Glenn Hoddle?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 30 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: The only people who are over rating him are the people slagging him off. I've not seen anyone saying he is world class or the finished article, just that he has the potential to go on to become these. Do you think you are more of an expert that Glenn Hoddle?! No but they can have their opinion, which may or may not be correct. Just because an ex-England player and manager said something, doesn't mean it's gospel, just look at what he said about the disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Stones played it safe and defending immensely last season, this season he seems to think he's Beckenbauer. He'll be a world class defender. Only people hyping him up are those slagging him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I haven't seen anything to suggest that stones will be world class. As highlighted by bris earlier he is a long way off defenders of similar ages to himself. Laporte,Varane,Giminez,Zouma are miles better than Stones currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 It's embarrassing how much media attention young english players get. You would have thought that they would have learnt by now not to overrated them. Obviously not. This is one of the many factors why the england national team will never be successfu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Varane is surrounded by world class players, Stones plays in a struggling Everton side currently. He looked awesome last season, Chelsea wouldn't be offering big money for someone who hasn't got the ability. We hyping Zouma now are we? Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Zouma is clearly a better defender at this moment of time. If you think otherwise then you're overrating stones a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Even last season he wasn't as good as people said he was. Jagielka carried him a lot and made stones look better than he actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 It's amazing how insecure some users on here get when I criticize an english player for being overhyped. I bet the same users ironically slagged of david luiz when he was at chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 And saying that stones will be our best defender since bobby moore highlights everything that is wrong with the english media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Also if stones was spanish,german or french he would be worth 10 million maximum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 38 minutes ago, McLovin said: I haven't seen anything to suggest that stones will be world class. As highlighted by bris earlier he is a long way off defenders of similar ages to himself. Laporte,Varane,Giminez,Zouma are miles better than Stones currently. Why do you keep mentioning Bris Vegas? Would it be anything to do with the fact that he clearly will never rate any English footballer? If you want to back up your thoughts with comments from people involved with football rather than some random poster on this site who happens to agree with your views, it would hold a lot more weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 19 minutes ago, McLovin said: Also if stones was spanish,german or french he would be worth 10 million maximum And since when did you become a valuer of football players. No football player is worth a single penny unless there is someone out there willing to pay that for him. The fact that Chelsea supposedly offered £40m for Stones in the summer should give you some indication of his current value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 21 minutes ago, McLovin said: Also if stones was spanish,german or french he would be worth 10 million maximum How much did City pay for Mangala? He's French. And I'd argue that at least in the PL, Stones has been a better defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Kernow said: How much did City pay for Mangala? He's French. And I'd argue that at least in the PL, Stones has been a better defender. in the region of £42m... so by that token, Stones is about £84m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I'd still rather have Mangala than Stones. Mangala has proved that he can defend such as against chelsea last season and more importantly Mangala has champions league experience. Mangala has played well in the champions league this season for city. Mangala is another player who gets slaughtered by the english press but Stones somehow escapes criticism because he is english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 22 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Why do you keep mentioning Bris Vegas? Would it be anything to do with the fact that he clearly will never rate any English footballer? If you want to back up your thoughts with comments from people involved with football rather than some random poster on this site who happens to agree with your views, it would hold a lot more weight. Because Bris is an englishman who can see the whole picture purely because he doesn't live in england and isn't influenced by the english media. Also he is a football journalist so I'm sure his views hold more weight than mine or yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 1 minute ago, McLovin said: Because Bris is an englishman who can see the whole picture purely because he doesn't live in england and isn't influenced by the english media. Also he is a football journalist so I'm sure his views hold more weight than mine or yours I don't hold anything against Bris, or what he does, but this sort of attitude is disappointing. Being a journalist of any form does not suddenly make your opinion matter more, or more likely to be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 19 minutes ago, SaintRam said: I don't hold anything against Bris, or what he does, but this sort of attitude is disappointing. Being a journalist of any form does not suddenly make your opinion matter more, or more likely to be correct. Don't worry mate I don't mean it I was just using g star's own argument against him because he said glen hoddle's views are more valid than mine just because he is a pundit and played football so is an "expert" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Just now, McLovin said: Don't worry mate I don't mean it I was just using g star's own argument against him because he said glen hoddle's views are more valid than mine just because he is a pundit and played football Ok, you won't be surprised to hear I hadn't read back through any of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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