wiseram Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Perhaps SM and management await the fate of Newcastle - they could be relegated.Would he go for Newcastle if they did ? Guess he is definitely going , but the package cannot yet be agreed. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano180 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/11626305/Why-Candy-Crush-is-to-blame-for-Steve-McClarens-sacking-by-Derby.html Telegraph saying today Mel Morris is behind this, appears the performance of last season the driving factor Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/#findComment-817645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 West Ham v Newcastle could end with both managers being sacked, carver and allardyce. Mcclaren has been linked with both. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/#findComment-817649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTinMan Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Carver won't be sacked as he is only employed as a manager until the season end anyway but unsure what the implications are to his previous coaching role. Likewise Big Sam out of contract at season end unlikely to be renewed. I can't see Steve getting either job unless we sack him and he becomes free to other clubs i.e. no compensation Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/#findComment-817651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheltenhamRam Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Morning Deano.Carver has been backtracking pretty hard ("best coach in the league") in recent weeks perhaps in an effort to retain his coaching role. Can't imagine he'd be kept on in any capacity, however, after so many bizarre pressers/comments and obviously terrible results. I think Hull have just a bit too much to do today which should leave the door open at PL-secured Newcastle for SM. Just had a browse on one of their forums and they're not exactly over the moon with the speculation... Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/#findComment-817654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Morning Deano.Carver has been backtracking pretty hard ("best coach in the league") in recent weeks perhaps in an effort to retain his coaching role. Can't imagine he'd be kept on in any capacity, however, after so many bizarre pressers/comments and obviously terrible results. I think Hull have just a bit too much to do today which should leave the door open at PL-secured Newcastle for SM. Just had a browse on one of their forums and they're not exactly over the moon with the speculation...they're an angry disillusioned bunch. whether thats with the owner or with his succession of lack-lustre appointees is difficult to fathom. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/#findComment-817663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelBlimp Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 they're an angry disillusioned bunch. whether thats with the owner or with his succession of lack-lustre appointees is difficult to fathom.They've always been that way except when they had Keegan/Shearer/Gazza haven't they? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/#findComment-817670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 They've always been that way except when they had Keegan/Shearer/Gazza haven't they?....or when they were winning trophies in what, the 1930's when they would have had sub-saharan levels of poverty and hunger to distract them. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/#findComment-817672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Did McC ever say this specifically in public ?."McClaren has maintained that Newcastle’s interest was not a distraction or a factor in Derby’s collapse. He blamed key injuries – losing striker Chris Martin and midfielders John Eustace and George Thorne". Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/#findComment-817674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelBlimp Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Did McC ever say this specifically in public ?."McClaren has maintained that Newcastle’s interest was not a distraction or a factor in Derby’s collapse. He blamed key injuries – losing striker Chris Martin and midfielders John Eustace and George Thorne". Did he ever blame himself though? It's always someone else's fault.If he had the opportunity to go back to March with the benefit of hindsight surely he would not do exactly the same things all over again? If he would then why would we want to keep a manager who's learned nothing.If he wouldn't then by definition he's partly at fault and therefore must accept some blame.As Descartes didn't say, I'm pink therefore I'm spam. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/#findComment-817682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/11626305/Why-Candy-Crush-is-to-blame-for-Steve-McClarens-sacking-by-Derby.html Telegraph saying today Mel Morris is behind this, appears the performance of last season the driving factor"...it appears..." Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/#findComment-817706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 "...it appears..."It's a phrase which is probably the only consistency in all of the 'reports'.Everything at this stage is speculation. It is human nature to speculate, and then some people will readily accept such speculation as fact. If and when the speculation turns out to be wrong, it's always the fault of the goalposts. They were in the wrong place all the time. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/#findComment-817707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 It's a phrase which is probably the only consistency in all of the 'reports'.Everything at this stage is speculation. It is human nature to speculate, and then some people will readily accept such speculation as fact. If and when the speculation turns out to be wrong, it's always the fault of the goalposts. They were in the wrong place all the time.It's such a huge backtrack. The title says that Mel (or rather Candy Crush because that's better clickbait) IS to blame. Says it so emphatically. He IS to blame. 3rd paragraph suddenly it only appears that way..If you showed a prehistoric caveman a speeding train, it would appear to be the most terrifying thing he'd ever seen and it would appear that the sun deity he worships has forsaken him. He couldn't be more wrong but it would appear that way to him. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/#findComment-817710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Did he ever blame himself though? It's always someone else's fault.If he had the opportunity to go back to March with the benefit of hindsight surely he would not do exactly the same things all over again? If he would then why would we want to keep a manager who's learned nothing.If he wouldn't then by definition he's partly at fault and therefore must accept some blame.As Descartes didn't say, I'm pink therefore I'm spam.Why would he go back and change his response? He did nothing wrong Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/#findComment-817711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano180 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 It's such a huge backtrack. The title says that Mel (or rather Candy Crush because that's better clickbait) IS to blame. Says it so emphatically. He IS to blame. 3rd paragraph suddenly it only appears that way..If you showed a prehistoric caveman a speeding train, it would appear to be the most terrifying thing he'd ever seen and it would appear that the sun deity he worships has forsaken him. He couldn't be more wrong but it would appear that way to him.Love it, the prehistoric caveman would have to 'appear' in the 20th century for this to happen Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/#findComment-817712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelBlimp Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Why would he go back and change his response? He did nothing wrongMaybe not with the toon thing, was really talking in football terms.Personally, I would have liked him to stay for next season but it's way too late for that now. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/19089-waiting-for-newcastle-result/#findComment-818044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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