Ovis aries Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 We all do realiase that we have the same team that completely and utterly embarrassed themselves in the World Cup only 8 months ago....??Of course i still think they will win the Euros....but i also thought we would win in Italia 90....Sweden 92.....Euro 96...France 98..etc etc etc...didn't quite work out the way i hoped that is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 No we don't . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Gerrard, Johnson, Baines, Wilshere, Lampard, Sturridge, Ox, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Foster, Forster.Players that were in the World Cup squad and wasn't in the last squad, some by injury, not the same team tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Gerrard, Johnson, Baines, Wilshere, Lampard, Sturridge, Ox, Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Foster, Forster.Players that were in the World Cup squad and wasn't in the last squad, some by injury, not the same team tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Of the 20 man squad last night these were in the W/c squad HartSmalling JagielkaHendersonJones RooneySubstitutesCahillBarkley These were not in W/C squadKaneCarrickTownsendWalcottGibbsDelphClyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Can they? Of course they can.Will they? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Of the 20 man squad last night these were in the W/c squad HartSmalling JagielkaHendersonJones RooneySubstitutesCahillBarkley These were not in W/C squadKaneCarrickTownsendWalcottGibbsDelphClyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Can they? Of course they can.Will they? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Gerrard and Lampard are the only ones that wont be in the squad if every person is fit....maybe Johnson....Lambert, Shaw wouldn't either. Sturridge and Wilshere are the Whitbread double act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 And out of all the players to come into the squad....any of them any good??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Nowt to do with you , will Scotland ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I actually grew up supporting England because my father is English. Then I became an adult and realised that nationalism was silly.Can Scotland? Of course they can. Will they? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Not SNP then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I'd have them all playing for The Rams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I actually grew up supporting England because my father is English. Then I became an adult and realised that nationalism was silly.Can Scotland? Of course they can. Will they? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Fans moan that we don't try young new players, England try new young players and people moan they are no good and write them off.Fans moan about international friendlies (This one was timed badly tho) yet expect the team to play well together instantly whilst introducing new players.Club level most level headed fans will give players time to settle in before writing them off, not afforded that luxury at International level, it's madness. The only way England will improve is by having a settled side, giving them time together.German World Cup winning teamNeuer (58), Lahm (113), Boatang (51), Hummels (39), Höwedes (32), Kramer (9), Schweinsteiger (109), Kroos (58), Müller (63), Özil (64), Klose (137)Total Caps: 733England v LithuaniaHart (50), Clyne (3), Cahill (34), Jones (15), Baines (30), Henderson (20), Carrick (33), Delph (5), Sterling (14), Rooney (103), Welbeck (33)Total Caps: 340Italy v EnglandHart (50), Smalling (16), Jagielka (35), Gibbs (7), Henderson (20), Jones (15), Delph (5), Rooney (103), Walcott (38), Kane (2)Total Caps: 291Oh and this was Italy's reserves, B team, C teamBuffon (147), Ranocchia (18), Bonucci (45), Chiellini (76), Florenzi (8), Parolo (9), Valdifiori (1), Soriano (3), Darmian (11), Citadin Martins (2), Pellè (3)Total Caps: 323Rather than blasting the players for not caring, not being good enough, just take a step back and look how little international football they have played. We need to give the team time to gel, can't keep calling for more youngsters to come in and expect them all to magically click and win a tournament.All the World Cup winning teams are made up of experienced players with plenty of caps, look at the German team above, look at the Spanish team that was so dominate, Casillas (161), Ramos (126), Xavi (133), Iniesta (102), Villa (97), thats 619 for a 5 a side team. And when you look at the Spanish team is was mainly built up from Barca and Real players so not only international experience but club experience together in partnerships all over the pitch. Spain lost last night, not one of those 5 players above started.Experience, experience, experience. Only comes with time, time and more time.Problem: Impatient fans that have unrealistic expectations that love to mock our national team, compare to other countries with far more experience without stopping for a second to actually think because FIFA has just match maked them in a new Ultimate Team game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Can Scotland....nope....will they ever....nope....is it funny.....yep. thirld world cross dressing nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Just out of interest, Spain World Cup winning team Casillas (161) - Real Mardrid Ramos (126) - Real Madrid Piqué (66) - Barca Puyol (100) - Barca Capdevila (60) - Villarreal Busquets (74) - Barca Alonso (114) - Madrid Xavi (133) - Barca Iniesta (102) - Barca Pedro (48) - Barca Villa (77) - Just signed for Barca Only one player, 2 if you want to count Villa were playing for Barca or Real with a total of 1061 caps. Should point out that is todays caps, obviously minus a few but I can't get the stats for how many they had at the time. Not sure it really matters too much when you consider the experience together at club level. Absolutely no wonder they were so dominate, I'll be interested to see how the new Spanish team does and how long it takes them to become anywhere near as dominate as that team was. Would an England team be given that time together? In the last 2 big friendlies v Germany and Netherlands they have lost both and only narrowly beat Ukraine 1-0 on Friday. That loss to German was a fairly new German side than what we've seen recently, a side that could only draw with Australia 2-2. That's my lecture on international experience over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaftesbury Street Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Fans moan that we don't try young new players, England try new young players and people moan they are no good and write them off.Fans moan about international friendlies (This one was timed badly tho) yet expect the team to play well together instantly whilst introducing new players.Club level most level headed fans will give players time to settle in before writing them off, not afforded that luxury at International level, it's madness. The only way England will improve is by having a settled side, giving them time together.German World Cup winning teamNeuer (58), Lahm (113), Boatang (51), Hummels (39), Höwedes (32), Kramer (9), Schweinsteiger (109), Kroos (58), Müller (63), Özil (64), Klose (137)Total Caps: 733England v LithuaniaHart (50), Clyne (3), Cahill (34), Jones (15), Baines (30), Henderson (20), Carrick (33), Delph (5), Sterling (14), Rooney (103), Welbeck (33)Total Caps: 340Italy v EnglandHart (50), Smalling (16), Jagielka (35), Gibbs (7), Henderson (20), Jones (15), Delph (5), Rooney (103), Walcott (38), Kane (2)Total Caps: 291Oh and this was Italy's reserves, B team, C teamBuffon (147), Ranocchia (18), Bonucci (45), Chiellini (76), Florenzi (8), Parolo (9), Valdifiori (1), Soriano (3), Darmian (11), Citadin Martins (2), Pellè (3)Total Caps: 323Rather than blasting the players for not caring, not being good enough, just take a step back and look how little international football they have played. We need to give the team time to gel, can't keep calling for more youngsters to come in and expect them all to magically click and win a tournament.All the World Cup winning teams are made up of experienced players with plenty of caps, look at the German team above, look at the Spanish team that was so dominate, Casillas (161), Ramos (126), Xavi (133), Iniesta (102), Villa (97), thats 619 for a 5 a side team. And when you look at the Spanish team is was mainly built up from Barca and Real players so not only international experience but club experience together in partnerships all over the pitch. Spain lost last night, not one of those 5 players above started.Experience, experience, experience. Only comes with time, time and more time.Problem: Impatient fans that have unrealistic expectations that love to mock our national team, compare to other countries with far more experience without stopping for a second to actually think because FIFA has just match maked them in a new Ultimate Team game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 We are top of the group and scored more goals than any other country in the compention I do think if england can get to the last 16 or 8. I say this team could well win it this time around but it will also mean need a bit of lady luck on the national side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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