L_J_DCFC Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 We seem to be going with the 4-4-2 again with Bryson and Hughes in the middle with Ward on the left and Coutts on the right. This could mean that our main asset could have to miss out. He seems to have been stuck with the second string team along with Sammon. I believe we should play the 4-3-1-2 with all three in the middle and Coutts missing out and Ward being the one in front. By doing this, it utilizes all of our assets and makes us a stronger team. Whoever we leave out in the middle of the park, I believe we will miss a different quality and therefore we will not be as strong. Who would you have in the middle of the park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 the dilemma Clough will face all season we have 3 class cm's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 We seem to be going with the 4-4-2 again with Bryson and Hughes in the middle with Ward on the left and Coutts on the right. This could mean that our main asset could have to miss out. He seems to have been stuck with the second string team along with Sammon. I believe we should play the 4-3-1-2 with all three in the middle and Coutts missing out and Ward being the one in front. By doing this, it utilizes all of our assets and makes us a stronger team. Whoever we leave out in the middle of the park, I believe we will miss a different quality and therefore we will not be as strong. Who would you have in the middle of the park? I don't believe Hendrick will miss out, was a big talking point, but as far as I can tell he has done as well as anyone in pre-season looking a lot sharper than he did last season at this point. I can't even pick who I would have in the team, so Clough is obviously got a task on his hands. Personally first game of the season I would try Coutts Hendrick Hughes Bryson in a flat 4 midfield, lots of energy and movement and can interchange. Ward and Russell upfront. But I don't know, I will be happy with whoever starts the season - as long as we change it up, and keep it fresh everyone will have their chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramble On Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 It's whether he'll bring Hughes in more this season, without injuries he made the side better on the day. A few times last season I felt we were a bit lacking in the defensive midfield role when Hughes wasn't playing, in the hole where Hughes was playing mostly last season, collecting and dispensing the ball out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Hendrick won't start until Yeovil, I already told you all this in the match thread when you were throwing 20p's at me. Both have been involved with Ireland over the last month, England, Georgia, Faroe Islands and Spain. They haven't had a proper summer break like the rest and with them both being called up again for the 14th August Ithink both will be on the bench for the first 3 games and maybe even the Leicester game. 4th May v Millwall 29th May v England 2nd June v Georgia 7th June v Faroe Islands 11th June v Spain 28th June Pre-Season Training I predict Hendrick's first start will be against Yeovil on the 24th, Sammon to start v Leicester. I know I'm right so hand over my winnings now. After the Yeovil game things will be mixed up with Hendrick and Hughes starting, Hughes is still a baby and can't be expected to start a full season and look at what a break did for Hendrick last season. #ITK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Crikey, give Hendrick a break! What do Marcelo, Sergio Ramos and Iker Casillas have in common? They've all been given extra holiday by Real Madrid because they played in the Confed Cup. Sammon and Hendrick are both firm Clough favourites, but they're going to be eased in a bit more because they've played for Ireland three or four times while the rest of the squad have been soaking in pools in the Caribbean with a nice cocktail. If they're used sparingly, this forum will be rife with the classic "they're off in this transfer window" "I've heard they've fallen out with Clough" etc, but I'm half expecting them to be sat on the bench against Blackburn because they're not going to be 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Crikey, give Hendrick a break! What do Marcelo, Sergio Ramos and Iker Casillas have in common? They've all been given extra holiday by Real Madrid because they played in the Confed Cup. Sammon and Hendrick are both firm Clough favourites, but they're going to be eased in a bit more because they've played for Ireland three or four times while the rest of the squad have been soaking in pools in the Caribbean with a nice cocktail. If they're used sparingly, this forum will be rife with the classic "they're off in this transfer window" "I've heard they've fallen out with Clough" etc, but I'm half expecting them to be sat on the bench against Blackburn because they're not going to be 100%. You could have just liked my post and saved your fingers from all that typing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 You could have just liked my post and saved your fingers from all that typing. Your forum didn't work and failed to tell me a new post had been added as I'd typed, I want that time back please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Who would you have in the middle of the park? I like the 4-3-1-2 formation, although it lacks width, it can easily revert to a 442 without much tinkering. In a 4312 i'd play brayford Keogh Bucko Forsyth Bryson Hughes Hendrick Ward Russell Sammon If we then need to go to 442, just stick huges and ward on the wings, or get coutts and Jacobs on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I'll put a cash bet on with anyone that Clough will play a minimum of 4 midfielders. (*disclaimer:playing Ward out on the left or Russell out on the right counts as midfield). Clough is not brave, nor dynamic enough to do what is effectively 2 things by putting only 3 in midfield. Clough likes wingers, AND, Clough likes his wingers to retreat all the way back so far that it looks like we have two full backs on each side of the pitch. Ask yourself, If there were only 3 in midfield, which playing positions would then retreat to be near Forsyth and Brayford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Can we have a poll on who our best centre mid is?? It would be very close. I'd say Hendrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randombc Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I think this season we'll see a lot more rotation, especially within the front 6, to avoid fatigue and injuries. We know Clough likes to play with energy, and many times last season we saw that players who were rested, came back into the team with that extra yard of pace and confidence e.g. Sammon. I think he'll stick with 4-4-2 this season - he's came out in the DET today and said he sees Russell and Martin as his front 2 - but having the likes of Sammon on the bench to stretch the games in the last 15 minutes or incase of injuries/suspensions will be hugely beneficial. -------Coutts---------Bryson---------Hughes---------Ward-------- ---------------------Russell--------------Martin------------------------ I can see this being the first choice team - although I wouldn't be to surprised if Hendrick was in there instead of Bryson - both bring something similar to the team for me. -----Davies-------Hendrick--------Coutts----------Jacobs------ ----------------------Sammon------------Bennett------------------ Then any of these players (I know I've left Coutts in there) could be bought in for cover should tiredness or suspensions become an issue, and they are all capable players. Wouldn't be surprised at all when during weeks which see us playing Saturday - Tuesday - Saturday you see something like this: Saturday ----------Coutts-------Hendrick---------Hughes--------Ward---------- -------------------------Russell-------------Martin------------------------- Tuesday ----------Coutts--------Bryson------------Hughes---------Jacobs------ -------------------------Russell--------------Sammon--------------------- Saturday -----------Davies---------Bryson---------Hendrick--------Ward--------- -----------------------Martin----------------Sammon------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Grant Brayford Keogh Buxton Forsyth Hendrick Hughes Bryson Russell Martin Ward or Grant Brayford Keogh Buxton Forsyth Hendrick Hughes Bryson Ward Russell Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I'd play Grant Brayford Keogh Buxton Forsyth Hendrick Hughes Bryson Ward Sammon Russell But Clough knows more then me. Give whatever his system is a chance before you criticise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Isn't this just the same thing over and over again. Clough is a 442 man and sometimes a 451 when he feels we need to be more solid. He was at burton and has been mainly here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Forsyth/Hoganson Barker/Buxton Keogh/O'Brien Brayford/Freeman Coutts/Davies Bryson/Eustace Hendrick/Hughes Ward/Jacobs Sammon/Martin Russell/Bennett With no-one else coming in of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsall_Ram Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 At home 442. Grant Brayf Keogh Jake Forsyth Coutts Will Bryson Ward Sammon Russell Away. 433. Grant Brayf Keogh Jake Forsyth Coutts Jeff Bryson Russell Martin Ward and yes I would still keep Theo for away games as I'd class him as a better player coming off the bench than Sammon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Isn't this just the same thing over and over again. Clough is a 442 man and sometimes a 451 when he feels we need to be more solid. He was at burton and has been mainly here. it's like some people are away with the fairies! They certainly haven't noticed there are several rules that are engrained in Clough's gameplan. One of the easiest to spot is doubling up on oppositing wingers! For that very reason, Nigel will never be fully committed to a 3 in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 To be fair LJ's question was "Who would you have in the middle of the park?" Had it been what do you think Nigel will do, most will be agreed he will go for a 4-4-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 it's like some people are away with the fairies! They certainly haven't noticed there are several rules that are engrained in Clough's gameplan. One of the easiest to spot is doubling up on oppositing wingers! For that very reason, Nigel will never be fully committed to a 3 in midfield. Exactly he likes the ball to be worked wide and drilled across the box into a good area and expects the forwards and midfielders getting in there. how many times has he mentioned it? To much football manager and listening to sky trying to fill an hour before a match and after. It's the same across all sports on TV now. When you speak to actual people who have played and managed the game at the top level they don't make it as complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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