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  • Interesting debate this is, but I don't think any of the options available (Buxton, O'Connor, OB, Gjokaj) are good enough and we need another centre half to play with Keogh. Maybe get someone on loan

Cause he's a better defender and they had Glenn Murray who is big and physical.

You saw what happened when we played O'Connor against Keogh and Wood, he got out muscled and out jumped all game.

Buxton > O'Connor.

Look at most goals we've conceded this season, most of them are from O'Connor mistakes. E.g -

Wolves

Watford

Charlton's 2nd.

All very poor defensive errors.

Glenn Murray, 14 goals this season..

Palace are top of the league and Murray is one of the best striker in the league?

O'Connor made the mistake that led to the Watford goal.

But he did play well against Blackpool, but did he really have anything to do? I wouldn't really call Gary Taylor-Fletcher big and powerful..

O'Connor mistake led to them scoring.

Look at most goals we've conceded this season, most of them are from O'Connor mistakes. E.g -

Wolves

Watford

Charlton's 2nd.

All very poor defensive errors.

No they weren't? What are you talking about? So he makes a few memorable mistakes and now he's responsible for 'most' of our conceded goals? What?

i thought everyone stopped because of a hanball in the build up to the watford goal? unfortunately our jake is not looking as good alongside keogh than o'connor atm

No they weren't? What are you talking about? So he makes a few memorable mistakes and now he's responsible for 'most' of our conceded goals? What?

Okay, most of our goals we've conceded when HE'S played.

Bucko>O'connor>Bucko

Theres no point with arguing with curtains because of hes always said o'connor is better then bucko.

The main issue is why change formation?

Buxton: 12 goals in 9 games. 2 clean sheets.

2 vs Wednesday

2 vs Burnley

2 vs Boro

0 vs Forest

0 vs Brighton

1 vs Blackburn

1 vs Ipswich

1 vs Pererboro (+red card & conseded 2 after)

3 vs Palace

O'Connor: 12 goals in 9 games. 1 clean sheet.

2 vs Bolton

1 vs Wolves

1 vs Watford

1 vs Huddersfield

2 vs Charlton

2 vs Peterboro

1 vs Blackpool (pen)

0 vs Barnsley

2 vs Milwall

Unless you include the 5 vs Ssausagehorpe. Then Buxtons on 17 in 10 games.

There's ya stats, make of it what you want.

Okay, most of our goals we've conceded when HE'S played.

Yeah maybe I didn't think it through at first. So goals he's at fault for out of the 12.

1 vs Wolves

1 vs Huddersfield

1 vs Watford

1 vs Charlton

1 vs Bolton

Add more if you can think of them, take some away if you disagree.

We've only won 2 games when Bucko started but 4 when Jimmy started

Yeah because 1 player determines the result.

I don't think its one CB that wins us games.

Buxton:

Won: 2

Drawn: 4

Lost: 3

Points: 10

O'Connor:

Won: 4

Drawn: 1

Lost: 4

Points: 13

No, but that one CB can be a weak link - and one half of a centre defensive partnership.

Its one CB that looses us games and his names Buxton. Way off the pace.

Are you drunk?

Its one CB that looses us games and his names Buxton. Way off the pace.

Mate, give it a rest! We get it, you like o'connor and hate bucko but there's 11 men on the pitch not 1.

As one-sided as Curtains theory may be, you can't just throw it to one side. He has a point, and I agree that Buxton is crap. But I believe he's about as crap as O'Connor. If you all want an answer to whom should play, then I'll suggest O'Brien. But if it's an answer to why Buxton started today instead of O'Connor, then that one has already been answered, because of Buxton's physical presence. Did he also cost us the game? Well maybe he did, but Clough made the decision, and imo, it was correct.

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Also, just to add to the mistakes. O'Connor might make howlers that are obvious to blind supporters, but Buxton does make mistakes that takes a keen eye to notice.

Edited by networker1884

If O'Connor was playing then someone would have wanted Buxton to play. It's always the case with Derby fans there is always someone better to come in. Nathan Tyson was ***** for over a season and slaughtered. Now he's scored a couple and not getting picked he's a world beater. Do me a favour...

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