Stimacked Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Just tried to sum up the current squad ranked by the approximate number of appearances they have, irespective of league. sub appearances count as an appearance. # = injured for the season <> Out on loan (34 ) Roberts 510; 74 Rams caps, 269 caps for Tranmere, 141 caps for Donny (31) B Davies 398; 48 Rams caps, 67 for Notts Co, 155 for Chester, 115 for Shrewsbury (30) # Barker 355; 98 Rams caps, 134 caps for Blackpool, 123 caps for Rotherham (30) Tyson 349; 26 Rams caps, 176 caps for Red Dogs, 78 caps for Wycombe (27) O'Connor 279; 6 Rams caps, 215 caps for Donny (25) Bryson 272; 51 Rams caps, 118 caps for Kilmarnock, 95 caps for Clyde (26) Keogh 249 7 Rams caps, 91 caps for Cov, 40 caps for Bristol C, 73 caps for Carlisle (27) Buxton 242, 46 Rams caps, 151 caps for Mansfield, 40 caps for Burton (24) Brayford 233 76 Rams caps, 81 caps for Crewe, 77 caps for Burton (26) Ward 221; 57 Rams caps, 63 caps for Blades, 67 caps for Chesterfield. (23) Robinson 189; 57 caps for Rams, 45 Caps for Huddersfield, 41 caps for Hereford (25) Sammon 185; 6 caps for Rams, 32 caps for Wigan, 65 for Kilmarnock, 69 for U.C.D (Ireland) (24) Fielding 156; 67 caps for Rams, 41 caps for Rochdale, 36 caps for Wycombe (24) Coutts 136 6 caps for Rams, 77 caps for Preston, 53 caps for Peterboro (29) Deeney 123 3 caps for Rams, 42 caps for Notts Co, 52 caps for Burton (26) Legzdins 107; 4 Rams caps.46 caps for Burton, 40 caps for Haifax (24) Bailey 104; 58 Rams caps, 46 caps for Crewe (20) Jacobs 96; 5 caps for Rams, 87 caps for Northampton (22) <> Atkins 93, 1 Rams cap, 59 caps for Burton (20) Hendrick 53 caps for Rams (19) <>Ball 34, 29 caps for Rams, 5 caps for Cov (21) Naylor 33, 8 caps for Rams, 23 caps for Mansfield (20) Freeman 27; 19 caps for Notts County (19) O'brien 23 Rams caps (20) Doyle 21 Rams caps (17) Hughes 10 Rams caps (16) Bennett 10 ams caps (18) <> K Richards 7 caps for Matlock (19) <>Galinski 4 caps for Corby Town (18) Lelan 1 Rams cap (19) Gjokaj 1 Rams cap (18) Hoganson (16) Thomas We have only 6 players with more than 90 caps at Champ level or above, including injured Barker. Roberts, #Barker, Tyson, Ward, O'Connor, Keogh. "Experienced championship players" have been replaced with younger players who Clough and co think have the hunger to succeed at this level. Obviously on cheaper wages. Younger players values ought to rise as they are playing at a higher level than they were when signed. Coutts is 5 years younger than Green. Keogh is two years younger than the player he replaced; Shackell. Jacobs is 7 years younger than Croft/ 11 years younger than "Bavies". Bryson replaced Savage who was 8 years his age or so. Derby's line up against Burnley;Fielding 24, Brayford 24, Roberts 34, Buxton 27, Keogh 26, Bryson 25, Coutts 24, Hendrick 20, Hughes 17 (Jacobs - 20 ) Ward 26, Sammon 25 (Robinson - 23 ) Here is a look at the ages of players in the line up of the top 11 teams in the championship last weekend: Brighton; Kuszczak 30 , Bruno ,31 (Calderon 30) , Greer 31, El-Abd 28, Bridge 32 Hammond 29 Orlandi 28 (LuaLua - 21 ) Bridcutt 23, Buckley 22 , Barnes 22, Mackail-Smith 28 (Dicker - 26) Huddersfield; Smithies 22 , Dixon 25, P Clarke 30, Gerrard 26, Hunt 21, Norwood 21 (Woods - 25 ) Clayton 23, Ward 21,Southern 31 (Arfield - 23 ) Novak 23, Vaughan 24 (Scannell - 22 ) Blackburn; Robinson 32 , Orr 29, Mn Olsson 24 (G Hanley - 20 ) ,Givet 30 Ribeiro 29 (Formica - 24) Nunes 20 ,Murphy 35 , Etuhu 30, Rhodes 22, Nuno Gomes 36 Blackpool; Gilks 30 , Crainey 31 Eardley 23 (Dicko - 20 ) Evatt 30 , Baptiste 26, Gomes 27 (M Phillips - 21' ) , Ferguson 34 (K Phillips - 39 ) Osbourne 24 ,Ince 20, Taylor-Fletcher 31 Delfouneso 21 Hull ; Amos 22,05 Chester 23 Dudgeon 21 (Rosenior - 27 ) Bruce 27, Evans 22 (Olofinjana - 32' ) , Koren 32, Faye 34 (Proschwitz -25 ), Aluko 23, Elmohamady 25,Quinn 26, Simpson 23 Wolves; Ikeme 26, Ward 27 ,Johnson 29 ,Berra 27, Foley 27, (Stearman -25 ) Peszko 27 (Boukhari - 25 ) Henry 29, Bakary Sako 24, Doumbia 23, Ebanks-Blake 26 (Sigurdarson - 21 ) Doyle 29 Cardiff; Marshall 27, McNaughton 30, Taylor 26, Hudson 30, Connolly 25, Whittingham 28, Cowie 29 (Noone - 24 ) Gunnarsson 23 Smith 32 (Kim Bo-Kyung - 22 ) Helguson 35 Bellamy 33 (Mason -21 ) Leicester; Schmeichel 25, De Laet 23, Konchesky 31, Morgan 28, St Ledger 27, Drinkwater 22, Marshall 21 (Dyer -30 ) James 21 (King - 23' ) Knockaert 20, Vardy 25, (Waghorn - 22 ) Nugent 27 Middlesboro; Steele 22, Hoyte 27, Amougou Friend 24 Woodgate 32 (Hines - 24 ) Leadbitter 26 (Bailey - 28) Thomson 27 McEachran 19, Emnes 24, Jutkiewicz 23, Carayol 23 (Zemmama -28 ) Bristol C;Heaton 26, Foster 27, Fontaine 26, Wilson 28, Bryan 19, Woolford 26 (Kilkenny -26 ) Pearson 29 Elliott 28 (S.Davies - 24 ) Adomah 24, Baldock 23 (Morris -33 ) Taylor 24 Red Dogs; Camp 28, Harding 28, Collins 32, Halford 27, Ayala 21, Gillett 26, Moussi 27 (McGugan - 23 ) Reid 30 (Lansbury -21)Coppinger 31 (Sharp -26 ) Cox 23 Blackstock 26 Leeds; Kenny 34, Peltier 25 (Varney -29 ) Drury 34, Lees 21, Pearce 24, Austin 27, Tonge 29, Byram 19, Becchio 28, (Gray - 34 ) Diouf 31, Poleon 19 (White - 20 ) Some teams are capable of packing their sides with experienced players. Huddersfield's Grayson has got a very young side riding on a wave of energy following their promotion. Our side is of a simaler age. All the other teams have line ups with around half the squad with players aged 27 or over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 What about robinsons appearances for millwall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 The relatively young age of the squad is the best thing that has been achieved. Brian Clough did the same thing building a side with young players e.g. Mcfarland 19, robson 17, mcgovern 19, webster 24, hector 24, Ohare 22....etc but the last signings added experience and know how - mackay 33, green 27, and the wonderful willie carlin 28. That seems to be the best strategy. Build a team that grows together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 So in comparing the other squads in the top half we've learned that we have a younger one than most. What can we glean from it??? Pretty much nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I can only think of 5 currants off the top of my head :- Red Currants, White Currants, Buffalo Currants, Black Currants, do Raisins count ? I found this about their growth habit, not sure how it compares though ? All forms of currant are deciduous shrubs, fast growing under optimum conditions. The plant is a multiple-stemmed clump, to 5 feet high and as broad, but is suitable for training as a standard. Annual growth is in a single flush in spring. The roots are superficial, fine and easily damaged by frequent cultivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Do currant buns count,and what about electric currants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabber Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 So in comparing the other squads in the top half we've learned that we have a younger one than most. What can we glean from it??? Pretty much nothing... Or that if we keep them developing together add a sprinkling of experience at the appropriate position at the appropriate time they could grow into a team to take us from the Championship and into the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 We just got Stimacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimacked Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 Hang on...Just a few more points on this.... The main gist of that was, yep we have a young squad of mainly inexperienced players at this level, but with plenty of hunger. They will once again get turned over by the more experienced sides during the season, but should surprise a few of the more favoured sides as well. Another way to put it is to break the current squad up into : Experienced established championship players (34 ) Roberts 510; 74 Rams caps, 269 caps for Tranmere, 141 caps for Donny (30) # Barker 355; 98 Rams caps, 134 caps for Blackpool, 123 caps for Rotherham (30) Tyson 349; 26 Rams caps, 176 caps for Red Dogs, 78 caps for Wycombe (27) O'Connor 279; 6 Rams caps, 215 caps for Donny (24) Brayford 233 76 Rams caps, 81 caps for Crewe, 77 caps for Burton (26) Ward 221; 57 Rams caps, 63 caps for Blades, 67 caps for Chesterfield. (26) Keogh 249 7 Rams caps, 91 caps for Cov, 40 caps for Bristol C, 73 caps for Carlisle Players that have proven themselves at this level, but still lack experience. (24) Fielding 156; 67 caps for Rams, 41 caps for Rochdale, 36 caps for Wycombe (25) Bryson 272; 51 Rams caps, 118 caps for Kilmarnock, 95 caps for Clyde (27) Buxton 242, 46 Rams caps, 151 caps for Mansfield, 40 caps for Burton (24) Coutts 136 6 caps for Rams, 77 caps for Preston, 53 caps for Peterboro Players with some experience, but still adapting to this level (31) B Davies 398; 48 Rams caps, 67 for Notts Co, 155 for Chester, 115 for Shrewsbury (23) Robinson 189; 57 caps for Rams, 45 Caps for Huddersfield, 41 caps for Hereford (25) Sammon 185; 6 caps for Rams, 32 caps for Wigan, 65 for Kilmarnock, 69 for U.C.D (Ireland) (29) Deeney 123 3 caps for Rams, 42 caps for Notts Co, 52 caps for Burton (26) Legzdins 107; 4 Rams caps.46 caps for Burton, 40 caps for Haifax (24) Bailey 104; 58 Rams caps, 46 caps for Crewe (20) Hendrick 53 caps for Rams (20) Jacobs 96; 5 caps for Rams, 87 caps for Northampton (19) O'brien 23 Rams caps Developement players, little first team experience at this level yet (17) Hughes 10 Rams caps (16) Bennett 10 ams caps (22) <> Atkins 93, 1 Rams cap, 59 caps for Burton (19) <>Ball 34, 29 caps for Rams, 5 caps for Cov (21) Naylor 33, 8 caps for Rams, 23 caps for Mansfield (20) Freeman 27; 19 caps for Notts County (20) Doyle 21 Rams caps (18) Hoganson (19) Gjokaj 1 Rams cap (18) <> K Richards 7 caps for Matlock (19) <>Galinski 4 caps for Corby Town (18) Adams Highly rated Youth players close to the first team squad (16) Thomas (18) Lelan 1 Rams cap (17) Dales (17) Dawkins Without the cash to buy more players already established at this level. Without the funding to keep others who were already established championship players supposedly on higher wages. Clough has had little option but to continously revamp the Rams squad each year. He has taken a gamble on a whole bunch of players who might make the grade. Some of these signings have not worked, some might still work. He is clearly trying to mold a squad that should improve with age. Some players will not make the grade, or fall out of favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Huddersfield is having younger squad than we do? Not sure, though, didn't count. But they're doing fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Are you saying that we have spent less than any one else in the league, or that our team may come good at some time ? I think Im missing the point you are trying to make ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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