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On 13/06/2021 at 21:55, Van der MoodHoover said:

Will we play at Wembley in the knockout rounds or do we have to travel and be booed by hostile foreign crowds? 

It depends where we finish. Top the group and we play our RO16 at Wembley with our potential QF being in Rome. Come second and our RO16 is in Copenhagen with our potential QF being in St Petersburg.

Admittedly, if we travel abroad, we are unlikely to meet Denmark, Russia or Italy at those respective stages so not sure the crowds would be totally partisan or hostile.

That being said... why not play at Wembley and be booed? ?

16 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said:

I fear Frank will already be coming under some significant pressure. Chelski fans are a long walk from patient and more than the result, the fact they finished the match hanging on for a draw won't have gone down well.

That said, while Leicester have yet to win this year, their 2nd half work seems to show they might be a decent outfit and it'd be a surprise if Chelsea are the only 'big' side they trouble this season. 

Really interested to see how this pans out.

Never bought this whole 'free hit year' nonsense that, because of the club legend status and the transfer ban, he'd be given time.

Being given time goes against everything that has happened at Chelsea over the past 15 years. Abramovic and Chelsea fans are not known for patience or for taking other factors into account.

The long and short will be that a club the size and stature of Chelsea has to be competing for a top 4 spot and competitive in the Champions League. Transfer ban or no transfer ban. Frank Lampard will only be given time if he can achieve this. And I'm not convinced that he can. We'll see. But I honestly don't think that his club legend status will count for much when push comes to shove.

Yesterday (and the Man Utd and Liverpool games) set alarm bells ringing. Pkayed some nice stuff, started well. But defensively woeful. Far too many spaces for the opposition to attack. Conceded from a set piece. And the tempo really dropping off. Sound familiar?

That said, as @86 Schmokes & a Pancake rightly points out, Leicester are a good side and will likely be in for a decent season.

13 hours ago, TigerTedd said:

I’m trying to think, but I can’t remember any time that we lost as much as 4-0. There were a couple of really poor results last season, but nothing that bad. 

In fact, one of our key characteristics was our bounce back ability. Gifting the other team a goal or two, and not letting it phase us, grabbing goals in the last few minutes, etc. 

Could it be that that is a Derby trait, and a trait of our squad, not something that frank instilled in us, and Chelsea just don’t have it. 

Imagine all those times we went behind, if we’d have capitulated. There would have been a lot of 4-0s.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47340085

Aston Villa 4-0 Derby County

On 23/07/2019 at 10:43, Mucker1884 said:

Ooh... still on the driving subject...

Picture coming down the A38 from Mansfield/Alfreton direction into Derby... Approaching Little Eaton Roundabout.  Two main lanes take you to the roundabout (straight on for Morrisons/Alfeton Rd/Chester Green etc, or right for A38> Markeaton).

There's a left lane there now (has been for a good while), which completely avoids the roundabout, and flows nicely and continuously to the left (Morrisons/Alfeton Rd/Chester Green etc) , with no restrictions.

There's a red light to the right of this lane, specifically controlling those in the main two lanes at the roundabout... and to be totally ignored by those of us in the left hand "direct" lane... some tart actually stopped there once, just as I was slowing down from 60 ish to a more comfortable 35 ish to take the sharpish bend! 
I nearly smashed her back end in, I can tell you!

 

 

Oh yeah... and what's with all the brown signs still directing us to the "I-Pro Stadium"!  Grrr!

I'm impressed that you've only had that happen the once. I can't go to Derby without that happening. If I wasn't protective of both a) my car and, to a lesser extent, b) the retention of the use of my legs, I'd happily go straight into the back of them just to teach them a lesson ?

4 hours ago, Dancfc said:

What? I admit we don't have the perfect fanbase and there's many things they can be criticised for which makes it all the more weird you've gone after us for the supposed treatment of the one person we gave all the love and support too unconditionally.

No Chelsea fan turned against Mourinho either time, first time round there was mass protests outside Stamford Bridge the day he left and the second time round 90% of the fans firmly believed it was the players fault and not Jose's, even the 10% (me being one of them) who saw through that weren't in any way disrespectful towards him and were still sad to see him go even though they knew it had to be done.

Yes a section turned against him while at United but what the media and rival fans conveniently ignore is the whole situation was started by him constantly lashing out at us. Every single ex Chelsea man who returned to The Bridge with rivals got a standing ovation on returning apart from him, there's a reason for that.

If you reread my comments, you'll see that they were directed at the fact that those people who were calling for #lampardout would be 'plastic fans with limited football knowledge'.

Plenty of Chelsea "fans" turned on Mourinho but, as per what I've just said, I don't doubt for one minute that those were the "fans" who have chosen to support Chelsea in the past 15 years and know little about football.

But as the BBC Sport article demonstrates, football is know dominated by social media. I don't doubt that the true fans who turn up down the Bridge week in week out will back Lampard and actually know what they're talking about. But there are vocal "keyboard warriors" who have probably never even been to a game, who will turn - they are a reality at every club, but especially so at a huge commercial enterprise club like Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool etc.

If you like, you can read my original comments in the context that they were delivered based on the reply I gave to another poster. It was your plastic so called "fans" that I was commenting on, as I actually quoted at the time. But, whatever.

8 hours ago, Alpha said:

I'm assuming they're joking? 

The score is always irrelevant. I think he will be happy if he saw good quality from the youngsters and the first choice players took on board how he wants them to play but perhaps just gently ease their way to 100%. 

They'll be a lot of focus on his pre season but it's not fair. His journey doesn't start vs Bohemians

The thing is, I'm not sure they are. I think a lot of them will be plastic fans who have a limited football knowledge.

The point is though, I don't honestly think that it will be long before the fans do turn on him. A couple of bad results, however inevitable we all know that to be for any manager, and they'll turn. Football fans are fickle, but I reckon Chelsea fans even more so. They turned on the best manager they ever had - twice! I have a sad feeling that this will all end in tears.

Oh, Frank, what have you done?