Thorne Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 If we don't win the next 2 games I'll start thinking something is wrong. Can't afford to be out of form if we want promotion. The consequences of not getting promoted will be bad. Expect players to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notts_ram Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Like Bryson or Leon Best? Here's hoping we go on a long winless streak then lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorne Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 Players that were linked with Premier League clubs (albeit promoted ones) and potential premier league quality players: Martin Keogh Hendrick Bryson Hughes Wage budget increased this season most likely on the hope we will go up this season. If we don't go up this season I don't see us getting promoted for another 4-5 seasons. Wage bill will have to be cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I didn't think it could get any worse after the suggestion of Dawkins replacing Bryson, it just has. I'm lost for words, apart from these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notts_ram Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Bryson and Keogh potential premier league quality players which premier league are we talking about, tiddlywinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Nothing to worry about we have a good squad and a good manager. Do you want Clough back anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorne Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 Linked with Burnley. Terrible team but they got promoted. Technically they are a Premier League team because they are in the league. Doesn't mean they are a premier league quality team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Oh, it's a Curtains random YouTube link sort of thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorne Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 Put it this way, if we lose the next game we could go 9th and we'd be 6 points off the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorne Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 And if we can't beat Brentford how are we going to beat Watford, Wolves, Middlesborough, Norwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 And if we can't beat Brentford how are we going to beat Watford, Wolves, Middlesborough, Norwich Football doesn't work like that. We could lose to Brentford, smash Watford, beat Wolves with 10 men, get battered by Boro and nil nil with Norwich. It's the Championship, the home of strange results now step away from the razors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Players that were linked with Premier League clubs (albeit promoted ones) and potential premier league quality players: Martin Keogh Hendrick Bryson Hughes Wage budget increased this season most likely on the hope we will go up this season. If we don't go up this season I don't see us getting promoted for another 4-5 seasons. Wage bill will have to be cut. Who was Martin linked with? Missed that one, despite him being probably the most suited to the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorne Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 Who was Martin linked with? Missed that one, despite him being probably the most suited to the Premier League. Sorry. I should have put Martin in a separate list. But in a window where Leicester allegedly bid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knabby crackers Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 "your worried" should be 'you're worried'. Am I worried? Only in the respect that McLaren has not yet realised that Dawkins only has one reasonable game in every six and that he fails to comprehend that Bennett is far more worthy of a squad place than Best, also if you are going to play Mascarell then you must include Hughes as they have more vision than any other two and will unlock defences quicker than any of Fagin's motley crew. In my opinion we are missing Jamie Ward and obviously George Thorne, the sooner they are back the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorne Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 Football doesn't work like that. We could lose to Brentford, smash Watford, beat Wolves with 10 men, get battered by Boro and nil nil with Norwich. It's the Championship, the home of strange results now step away from the razors. I agree with you to an extent but we have to beat what is in front of us. It's fine saying it's the championship results and form go out the window but if we have the better manager, stronger squad, better quality players, an expectation to perform results like Brentford aren't good enough in the wider picture. Of course it's too early to tell, Leicester lost 4-1 to Millwall I think last season unless someone can correct me otherwise. But teams are increasingly finding us out and are successfully getting results out of us and we don't have a response to that at all. N our next game the opposition manager will show the team videos of teams like Millwall and Brentford and Wigan that managed to completely nullify us. It will by very worrying if that keeps happening and we don't have a response to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsilks Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 If we don't win the next 2 games I'll start thinking something is wrong. Can't afford to be out of form if we want promotion. The consequences of not getting promoted will be bad. Expect players to go. Clearly you think something is wrong or you wouldn't have started this thread. We lost a game. Nothing is wrong. They scored more goals than us. There isn't a single quality side in this division and I include DCFC in that. We have a few more match winners in our side but more importantly, a settled group of players so that should see us finish in the top half a dozen. If players are good enough then they will go irrespective of whether we go up or not. The players have no reason to stay with Derby. They will play for whoever offers them the bigger wage packet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Sorry. I should have put Martin in a separate list. But in a window where Leicester allegedly bid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorne Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 Clearly you think something is wrong or you wouldn't have started this thread. We lost a game. Nothing is wrong. They scored more goals than us. There isn't a single quality side in this division and I include DCFC in that. We have a few more match winners in our side but more importantly, a settled group of players so that should see us finish in the top half a dozen. If players are good enough then they will go irrespective of whether we go up or not. The players have no reason to stay with Derby. They will play for whoever offers them the bigger wage packet. I think that's a harsh assessment of the team. We have quality, we have one of the best squads in the division and when we play well we can beat ANYBODY in the league. We aren't playing well. I still think we will go up so I'm not worried in that sense. What I am worried about is games we have thrown away that should have been winnable games. That costs us points. Historically if we are serious about promotion we need to be top or near there Coe, Christmas. If we can't get points from winnable games then I will be concerned. Key players from last season aren't playing well like Bryson. It's not a season or a league where can afford to be 3-5 games out of form otherwise we will get left behind. 4th- 6th isn't good enough. Play offs are a lottery and GPR game proved that. Should have beaten them but we didn't take our chances. Too much of a risk to settle for the play offs. We need to be going for automatics for the sake of our own sanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorne Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 I agree and I was surprised when no-one came in for him, though I suspect a couple of teams may bid in January. 25 goals last season and 12 already this season; just hope we can hold on to him. Will depend where we are comes January. If we are in and around promotion spots then there wouldn't be much, mid table/ chasing for play offs may be a different story. Martin is the second most important and key player to our promotion chances. First is Thorne, as I've said when Thorne comes back we will get promoted. No contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Will depend where we are comes January. If we are in and around promotion spots then there wouldn't be much, mid table/ chasing for play offs may be a different story. Martin is the second most important and key player to our promotion chances. First is Thorne, as I've said when Thorne comes back we will get promoted. No contest. We've done alright without Thorne so far... Thorne brings Premier League quality to the side and gels the midfield to make them the best in the league. Martin is more pivotal, not only does he score important goals but we play mostly through him with his passing and hold up play and we've seen that none of our other strikers can do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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