The depression

[MrsRam]

I cant make me mind up if to post on this thread, or if people mis understood what I was getting at on the other one,

 

I was trying to say I can understand the attraction of suicide to a person suffering from depression, however I cant in my head convert that to the consequences outweighing the taking of my own life, as in if when I feel like sh!!t, and think whats the point in all this crap or life in general, surely the thought of putting everyone through that.

 

Its hard to explain what I mean so I should probably shut up as to not offend but not the act of suicide as selfish more knowing the effect it will have on everyone else as selfish, as fair enough it draws a line under my own turmoil but it creates a whole new pain for everyone else,

 

Hope I havent offended anyone just being honest about my view on it, I hope that anyone that has or thinks they have it would take this opportunity to talk about it,

 

His children have come out and said something along the lines of, how sad it is that he was so loved yet still couldn't stick around.

 

My depression was an accumulation of 5hit that happened in my life, all in a few years and I was frightened of dying, infact, that was my worry, dying and leaving my family, like it seemed, a lot of my family had left me...so depression comes in many forms.

 

So, don't worry about offending people observer, I can see your point of view and I can see others.  There is still room out there for peoples opinions.  

[Tombo]

I cant make me mind up if to post on this thread, or if people mis understood what I was getting at on the other one,

 

I was trying to say I can understand the attraction of suicide to a person suffering from depression, however I cant in my head convert that to the consequences outweighing the taking of my own life, as in if when I feel like sh!!t, and think whats the point in all this crap or life in general, surely the thought of putting everyone through that.

 

Its hard to explain what I mean so I should probably shut up as to not offend but not the act of suicide as selfish more knowing the effect it will have on everyone else as selfish, as fair enough it draws a line under my own turmoil but it creates a whole new pain for everyone else,

 

Hope I havent offended anyone just being honest about my view on it, I hope that anyone that has or thinks they have it would take this opportunity to talk about it,

At least you have a view on it and are prepared to discuss it on a public medium. That's more than most. Most people don't have an opinion on it or are ill-informed. You at least have an opinion, and when there are differing opinions on a topic then discussion can thrive, then when discussion can thrive understanding and education on a subject is born.

[SuperSheep]

very tough topic to talk about; I believe everyone goes through some form of depression in their life, for however long or short the time is. sadly these rough times can get to even the happiest and tough of people.

[Mafiabob]

I do think with the advent of social media it has become a lot more understandable to some people who probably didn't know much about the illness.

It's like being stuck in a rut and not knowing where to turn and who to turn too.... As people are already aware I'm a compulsive gambler and I've got GA to turn to, that's where I get myedicine by listening to others with the same problem.

I was never really depressed about that though. I suffered depression for far more sinister and horrible reasons for that. Something that I can't really share on a open forum. All I can say is it's better to look forward in life rather than look backwards and think bout the same stuff over and over again.

I was on the happy pills for a while which helped. But I found CBT to be of much better use to me. Writhing down all my negative thoughts when I had them and turning them into positives.

Always here for a chat on DM if you need help.

And trust me when we are chatting, you help me too with your experiences just as much as I'm trying to help you.

X

[observer]

I do think with the advent of social media it has become a lot more understandable to some people who probably didn't know much about the illness.

It's like being stuck in a rut and not knowing where to turn and who to turn too.... As people are already aware I'm a compulsive gambler and I've got GA to turn to, that's where I get myedicine by listening to others with the same problem.

I was never really depressed about that though. I suffered depression for far more sinister and horrible reasons for that. Something that I can't really share on a open forum. All I can say is it's better to look forward in life rather than look backwards and think bout the same stuff over and over again.

I was on the happy pills for a while which helped. But I found CBT to be of much better use to me. Writhing down all my negative thoughts when I had them and turning them into positives.

Always here for a chat on DM if you need help.

And trust me when we are chatting, you help me too with your experiences just as much as I'm trying to help you.

X

 

you know mafia it was only yesterday that I was talking to my missus about whether in the future we will see big court cases against bookies the same way we see them with tabacco firms, as in in the future I can see gambling firms being required to do credit checks when betting or something similar, gambling is a giant hidden problem and like most addictions only the positive side of this is generally portrayed by peers/friends.

 

 

 

Gambling is an illness which I think is massively linked to depression,

 

I cant make me mind up if i was fortunate in the past when I have had issues with gambling its come with times when I have been earning enough money for it to not be an immediate issue, Im sure the two are linked in my brain

 

either that or its a way of getting a little buzz to get through life.

 

I have massive appreciation for anyone who can admit and talk openly about a gambling addiction,

[Mafiabob]

you know mafia it was only yesterday that I was talking to my missus about whether in the future we will see big court cases against bookies the same way we see them with tabacco firms, as in in the future I can see gambling firms being required to do credit checks when betting or something similar, gambling is a giant hidden problem and like most addictions only the positive side of this is generally portrayed by peers/friends.

Gambling is an illness which I think is massively linked to depression,

I cant make me mind up if i was fortunate in the past when I have had issues with gambling its come with times when I have been earning enough money for it to not be an immediate issue, Im sure the two are linked in my brain

either that or its a way of getting a little buzz to get through life.

I have massive appreciation for anyone who can admit and talk openly about a gambling addiction,

Thankyou, without trying to take over the thread like I have with other threads without my gambling problem, it's only going to get worse, a lot easier to gamble nowadays than when I was, doesn't mean I will slip and go back and go back toy old ways. Seen plenty of people who have got mentally ill over gambling. Luckily there's self help in GA. I wouldn't touch gamcare (government sponsored, heavily backed by the gambling industry) with a barge pole.

[davenportram]

Thankyou, without trying to take over the thread like I have with other threads without my gambling problem, it's only going to get worse, a lot easier to gamble nowadays than when I was, doesn't mean I will slip and go back and go back toy old ways. Seen plenty of people who have got mentally ill over gambling. Luckily there's self help in GA. I wouldn't touch gamcare (government sponsored, heavily backed by the gambling industry) with a barge pole.

Gamcare preaches gamble what you can afford, if youve asked for help it means you cant afford it.

Australia had a major problem with gambling and America has banned online gambling.

[GeneralRam]

The problem with gambling is through the internet - it's just TOO easy.

 

Rather than being able to exclude yourself with the bookies, maybe you should be able to put a lock on gambling sites through your bank - that way you can't just flutter money away.

[Mafiabob]

The problem with gambling is through the internet - it's just TOO easy.

Rather than being able to exclude yourself with the bookies, maybe you should be able to put a lock on gambling sites through your bank - that way you can't just flutter money away.

there is program's called gam bloc but what you say is very good also.... But won't never happen as it's up to yourself to stop

[GeneralRam]

there is program's called gam bloc but what you say is very good also.... But won't never happen as it's up to yourself to stop

 

Common sense never prevails though does it? The government love doing things the hard way! Bookies shouldn't just be walk in either - they should be like casinos where you need to sign up and become a member. That way people can self exclude themselves.

[Mafiabob]

Common sense never prevails though does it? The government love doing things the hard way! Bookies shouldn't just be walk in either - they should be like casinos where you need to sign up and become a member. That way people can self exclude themselves.

That's the way we are.... I don't blame the gambling industry, end of the day they got to make money, it's up to is to put the barriers in place.

Apologies for all the gambling talk people on a depression thread!

[EastKentRam]

Gamcare preaches gamble what you can afford, if youve asked for help it means you cant afford it.

Australia had a major problem with gambling and America has banned online gambling.

 

Even banned online poker in most states, makes me sick.

 

Although that wasnt problem gambling related, but still. Signs it could be back at some point though. 

[observer]

Common sense never prevails though does it? The government love doing things the hard way! Bookies shouldn't just be walk in either - they should be like casinos where you need to sign up and become a member. That way people can self exclude themselves.

 

they shouldnt be allowed to accept card like they do now, makes all the difference talking the walk to the cashpoint saying is this a stupid idea!!

 

your already out of the bookies

[GeneralRam]

they shouldnt be allowed to accept card like they do now, makes all the difference talking the walk to the cashpoint saying is this a stupid idea!!

 

your already out of the bookies

 

Didn't realise they took card nowadays too! It'll get worse before it gets better.

[EastKentRam]

The FOBT's will take cards soon I reckon.

 

They're the real evil in all of this.

 

Then again, if you play them expecting to make money, you definitely need help. 

[observer]

The FOBT's will take cards soon I reckon.

 

They're the real evil in all of this.

 

Then again, if you play them expecting to make money, you definitely need help. 

you can have credit added to them already, as far as i know,

I would never do that as I think as soon as you have done it once that would be GAME OVER haha

[EastKentRam]

you can have credit added to them already, as far as i know,

I would never do that as I think as soon as you have done it once that would be GAME OVER haha

 

O right.

 

I know you can ask at the counter for them to credit the machines etc, didnt think you could actually put your card into one chip and pin style. 

[Perky1106]

I have been in and out of depression as a result of anxiety before.

 

I dabbled in alcohol and substance abuse which certainly doesn't help.

 

An important thing I try to do is try and leave the house and do something at least once a day. Long walks are good. Also any hobby like cooking, reading, playing music or even football can help take your mind off dark thoughts.

 

Best advice I'd give to anyone though is to go to your GP or simply talk to someone.

[GeneralRam]

The FOBT's will take cards soon I reckon.

 

They're the real evil in all of this.

 

Then again, if you play them expecting to make money, you definitely need help. 

 

I use to program the games for these.... In some of the games you have a more likely chance of wining the lottery than the jackpot!

[BondJovi]

I wrote a long post in the Robin Williams thread, which I decided not to post.

It took me reaching the lowest I have ever felt before I actually got help. My GP eventually got me some counselling and it has changed my life. Had I been willing to open up and talk about how I really felt, I could have got myself sorted many years earlier, I just figured an intelligent person like me was immune to have a mind that could also be such a hindrance. I haven't had depression, but my counsellor told me it was a miracle I wasn't depressed. Had I not gotten the help when I did, I believe I would have been in a real mess. People just assumed I was fine because I always smiled and could have a joke, even if the jokes were all self depreciation.

 

Those counselling sessions were a blessing and it lifted such a weight off my shoulders, really opened my eyes to who I am and who I think I should be. But also, I had the support of a friend, someone who only entered my life when I was at my lowest, but they stuck with me and became a rock as I tried to get myself back on track.

 

Depression comes in many guises and forms, I don't believe there is a set in stone reason for why it happens. But you should never be afraid to talk to someone, even if it feels insignificant. Keeping up a fa