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New Gold Dream

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    New Gold Dream reacted to loweman2 in Derby County Shirt Collection   
    Only one of these were ever produced for the 83/84 FA cup tie with Plymouth for Steve Cherry, he was remembered more for the howler in the game instead of this magnificent beast of a shirt !




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    New Gold Dream reacted to loweman2 in Derby County Shirt Collection   
    Le Coq Sportif match worn collection

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    New Gold Dream reacted to Ambitious in Keogh Sacked   
    I really don't understand the surprise or upset by this. 
    Derby County offered each player a contract at one time or another. The contract doesn't just say how much money you will earn during whatever duration you are offered. It comes with stipulations, for example: If Derby County offer Joe Bloggs a 5-year-deal but he doesn't do a day of work. They will have a stipulations to sack them. 
    Now, ignoring the hypothetical and focusing on the players involved in the situation: all three could've been sacked for gross misconduct. I have absolutely no doubt about that. The issue would've been how that would've impacted us as a club on FFP. It's effectively writing off assets against the club. We know why we issued contracts to certain players last season we clearly had no intention of keeping or playing. 
    Lawrence & Bennett are arguably at much bigger fault, based on what we know, but quite frankly I don't care in that situation whether you're the one driving or a passenger. It's not like he didn't know or willingly get into the car with a drunk driver. I also think he could've influenced them not to get into the car, so I don't think I buy that he's not as guilty as the others. The only reason he probably wasn't driving was because he hasn't bothered to learn. 
    The key difference is that Keogh simply cannot fulfill the terms of his contract, i.e. the duty he is paid for, whilst simultaneously breaking god knows what stipulation in the contract. It's well documented that these deals come with all sorts of daft clauses, for example: I remember one player for Sunderland who was banned from going into space, I've also heard of others banning things like skiing and theme parks. 
    Lawrence and Bennett similarly broke whatever stipulations in their contract, but they can fulfill the terms of their contract. They can continue to play for the club. Realistically, it's not affected their ability to turn up and play football for Derby County. Keogh's part in the whole thing has, in fact it looks like it's impacted him so badly that even if he wasn't sacked, he would never be able to set foot on the pitch. Again, I say it is no surprise that he's been released from his contract as he's effectively ended his contract through his own misgivings. 
    Let's not target Derby County or Mel Morris for this - they didn't want any of this. Unfortunately, the black and white is that Keogh has ended his own football career through poor decisions and expected someone else to foot the bill. If he had no injured himself then I have no doubt he would've also been back in for the first game as Lawrence was. It's life at the end of the day. 
    No sympathy for him - the club even offered him the opportunity to stick around on a lesser wage. It will probably go to court, but 'serious incapacity or misconduct caused by excess alcohol or drugs' is a cornerstone of gross misconduct. The police report will probably detail enough to give Richard no leg to stand on in the courtroom.  
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    New Gold Dream reacted to Duracell in Keogh Sacked   
    Regardless of everything else, this day is very sad if for nothing other than the finality of it.
    I’m 25, had a season ticket since I was 6, so I’ve seen him play more than any other Derby player. I’ve never known a player be so consistent in their availability. For many my age - he is Derby County. His distinctive face, mannerisms and playing style defined an era. Maybe not a successful one, but certainly some excellent memories and some fantastic football.
    That’s what we should’ve been talking about with Richard Keogh. He should have retired a happy man, with a full testimonial in front of the kids. He should be sat down with an ancient Colin Gibson on Rams TV meets in 15 years’ time. We should’ve been debating in the pub with our mates what could’ve been with our rose-tinted spectacles...
    All those games, all those memories, now pale into insignificance. This is what we will remember him for. Knowing the end, it’s tainted many of the memories when I look back now.
    I love a good redemption story in sport. Today’s very unfortunate because we will never get one with Richard Keogh.
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    New Gold Dream reacted to May Contain Nuts in Keogh Sacked   
    Because "we will not tolerate" doesn't mean "we will immediately sack"
    The club haven't tolerated Lawrence & Bennett's actions, they've fined them 8 weeks wages. Whether you think that's sufficient or not is immaterial, their behaviour hasn't been tolerated.
    You've got to forget about Lawrence & Bennett's situation when assessing Keogh's. Each case it different.
    The first thought wasn't to sack any of the three - Keogh has been offered the chance to stay at the club, who'll pay for his rehabilitation and give him a wage while he recovers from his injury. If he was being offered an absolute pittance then I can understand him rejecting the offer, but ultimately he and he alone is responsible for his current situation, no matter who'd car he was in, no matter who was driving, he is responsible for his own actions and the outcome of them.
    I strongly doubt the offer we made would have been leaving him to hang out and dry financially, but I don't know that. What I do know is that his decision not to take it up ensures exactly that, not just financially but in terms of getting the support needed during his rehab, and I think it's a very stupid one to have made.
    Would any of the people outraged by the decision to sack him really be happy if we were continuing to pay him 25k a week in wages for 18 months when it's his own fault he's unavailable?
     
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    New Gold Dream reacted to Bontddu Ram in Keogh Sacked   
    The club are perfectly correct in this decision and I fully support them.
    These modern players are living in cuckoo land. 
    If Keogh had anything about him he would show some humility and be doing everything he could to repair the damage he has done to the club.
    Refusing to take a pay cut instead of begging for forgiveness makes me think he'd be better suited to the House of Commons than Pride Park.
    If he has been on £25,000 a week for the past few years he should be set up for life and if he isn't, well that's his fault. Either way, if it was me, I would be doing anything to restore my own & the clubs reputation, including working for nothing, if necessary.
    We all make mistakes and believe you me, I've made plenty, but it's how you right the wrongs and learn from them that matters.
    These players need to understand how privileged they are and start behaving accordingly.
    No sympathy for the bloke at all now. Good riddance. 
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