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Interesting to note. At the same time, it was never Randall signing off the transfers, identifying the players or agreeing their salaries. That, ultimately, was Marinakis and it will be interesting to see the owner’s reaction. Does he come out swinging or does he accept responsibility? https://theathletic.com/5201583/2024/01/15/nottingham-forest-premier-league-charges/

Brutal headline that. 😂

I see your point, but I don’t think heroin is comparable to cheese with gravy. Never heard of poutine? It’s just a piece of fish thrown in.

So a combined £305k a week for Arter, Shelvey, Felipe and Wood. Wild. Absolutely wild numbers.

Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it

Harry Arter, last played January 2021. He's on 40k a week and still at the club. Sent him out to Notts County last season where he would have still been raking in that money. Felipe, 90k per week, only been fit enough to start once this season. Shelvey contract terminated after 8 months. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/jan/15/nottingham-forest-the-latest-club-in-crosshairs-over-football-short-termism FFP charge aside, that is some serious money that's being wasted.

115 charges is a lot, I grant you that. So why not break them down, 10 at a time in chronological order. I suspect you're right, PL write it off, or come to an agreement with Man City where they pay X million fine and grassroots funding, try and spin it into a positive for the game and a win for them.

And in Forest's case, unfortunately for them, they needed a couple of clubs to make an example of how they punish for financial irregularities. Also read somewhere, might have been The Athletic last night, no precedence has been set for this, so they are the guinea pigs, as a fan that's frightening. The players now have to go out there and perform, not knowing their fate until early April by which point will only have a handful of games left. How do you manage that kind of situation? Be interesting to know what kind of job Nuno was sold and were they transparent with him.

Maybe we could start a chant. We used to have green, green grass Blue, blue Sky The Brummies were gonna throw a party on the day that we die.

Chips, battered cod, cheese and gravy is also massively underrated.

There are some parallels between our case and Forest's, not that many Dogs would like to admit it here. Derby were in communication with the EFL throughout selling the stadium, all accounts were submitted and processed. Believed everything was fine. Likewise, Forest in communication with the PL throughout, clearly thought they would be fine. Both clubs tell the fans they will be fine, we think it's fine, all articles are pure clickbait. Both clubs proceed to be charged. Both clubs turn to Nick De Marco. Both fans think now they will be fine now Nick's on the case. We were docked points. tbc...... Obviously the parallels end there as everything went tits up our end going into admin, non payment of HMRC etc. etc. Part of me wants you to be docked points, finish the season on 10 points and have a decade of arguments over who is the real worst team ever in the Premier League. Singing worst team in history at each other next season. At the same time, it just stinks. It stinks whilst others continue to flaunt the rules for example Man City. It stinks if Forest were telling the truth and the PL were in the know the entire time and didn't say, oi, no you can't do that, now it's oi you can't do that. I find it hard to believe that whoever has been making decisions was told no and continued regardless, unless advised that the punishment for doing so would be minimal by external legal team? I don't want you lot to go down on a points deduction the same way we did, your players, staff, fans don't deserve that for waiting 6 months or whatever it was for more money. It's not right. Rivalry says I should be takin the piss, laughing, finding it hard when you're just another club as where I say the players, staff, fans are getting screwed over for something between a boardroom and governing body. Look at the way the EFL have treated Reading compared to ourselves, with the independent regulator looming the PL will use both you and Everton to show they can handle it themselves. It's an easier fight than taking on a state backed club where money talks. Saying all that, who the hell sanctioned that Jonjo Shelvey arrival and departure, dear me. 🤣🤣

Time to stop the curse talk nonsense. Never been cursed. Just as a forum topic does not directly impact results on a pitch. Some of you lot would put a bad day down to putting your left sock on before the right in the morning.

Need some context here, are these comments from Brentford fans?

You haven’t turned anything on for a while. Source?….Your wife.

I agree 100% mate. 🐏

Never in doubt. As @B4ev6is said, Pompy we are coming for you.

Absolutely not. Warne has stated he's not a player he's interested in, so would make no sense signing him and saying there you go Paul, here's that player you didn't want as back up, enjoy.

Doubt Norwich will be interested.

I hear this is all historic and complicated, however we're talking about charges over a period of 14 seasons dating back to 2009, 15 years it's taken. 7 Premier League titles 3 FA Cups 6 League Cups 1 Champions League All won during those periods, circling back to our own situation where we had Boro and Wycombe wanting to sue us for 'cheating' and costing them positions in the table, successfully getting paid off to go away and the EFL retrospectively changing the rules to throw the book at us. All those clubs beaten twice by City going down by the 6 points. All those clubs missing out on European football, titles, trophies. It's just insane to me that a club with 115 charges is still carrying on regardless 15 years after their first unpunished offence, you can bet your house that they won't face any retrospective punishment and pay a fine of a few million which will pay for a lavish PL bosses Xmas party. Forest have been naive to think they can slide a transfer from one accounting period to another, yet in the grand scheme of things, seems a minor infraction whilst other state run clubs stick two fingers up and laugh from afar.

True. Part of me wishes they all just buggered off to the Super League now, would English football recover from the loss of those clubs? In time I’m sure. Makes no sense that a clubs revenue whilst in the Championship is used to form sustainability rules in the league above where the wealth is greater minimising their ability to compete. That one charge has the potential to relegate meanwhile a club at the other end has 115 hanging over them and as I say, allowed to continue picking up silverware. It’s Forest, so I’ll laugh, just as they did when the EFL rewrote the rules punishing us retrospectively, yet we all know it stinks and about time they scrapped this nonsense in favour of a more fair system that would allow clubs to all compete on a level playing field.

Can anyone explain why Manchester City are avoiding answering their 115 charges before the rule changes in August, whilst Forest and Everton must answer them now? 115 charges which has dragged on for how long? I want to sit here and take the piss out of Forest as nature intended, however it's just wrong how Manchester City are continuing and picking up silverware whilst others are having the book thrown at them.