Van der MoodHoover Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Can't see a thread on this so thought I'd kick one off. The kids have topped Group D with 9 pts out of 9 and have just dismantled the Netherlands 3-0 in their own back yard. Qtr finals this weekend. Ze Germans looking strong but we look to have a nice balanced team with a bit of flair (eg hudson-odoi) with some good graft. Come on you young lions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Looks like we play Ireland in the quarters - who lost 7-0 to Germany in the groups. Hungary v Turkey Spain v France England v Republic of Ireland Germany v Netherlands If we beat Ireland, we'll have Hungary or Turkey in the semis. If we reach the semis, we automatically qualify for the World Cup in India, which takes place in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 I don't really follow u17s closely but a bit of googling reveals that England beat Germany 8-1 last autumn in the warm up tournament. One of the stars is George mceachran, the younger brother of Josh at Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 It will be interesting to see how they get on. It seems over the last few years we've raised the standard in terms of some better results, but also producing some decent players. A number of the players from the squads over the last few years are obviously still quite young, but a number of them are looking like they might be breaking through at a very decent level already: 2014 squad - Patrick Roberts, Lewis Cook, Isiah Brown, Dominic Solanke, Adam Armstrong, Joe Gomez 2015 squad - Tom Davies, Reece Oxford, Trent Alexander-Arnold I had a quick look back at when Wayne Rooney was coming through, in 2002. He was voted as player of the tournament, but looking at the rest of the squad and what they've achieved is really quite poor, thinking that was the best team at that time for the age group. There's a link to that squad here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_UEFA_European_Under-17_Championship_squads#.C2.A0England Mind you, I guess if every squad was to produce a player at the level of Rooney, we wouldn't be doing too badly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bridgford Ram Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 On 5/11/2017 at 13:32, Boss said: It will be interesting to see how they get on. It seems over the last few years we've raised the standard in terms of some better results, but also producing some decent players. A number of the players from the squads over the last few years are obviously still quite young, but a number of them are looking like they might be breaking through at a very decent level already: 2014 squad - Patrick Roberts, Lewis Cook, Isiah Brown, Dominic Solanke, Adam Armstrong, Joe Gomez 2015 squad - Tom Davies, Reece Oxford, Trent Alexander-Arnold I had a quick look back at when Wayne Rooney was coming through, in 2002. He was voted as player of the tournament, but looking at the rest of the squad and what they've achieved is really quite poor, thinking that was the best team at that time for the age group. There's a link to that squad here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_UEFA_European_Under-17_Championship_squads#.C2.A0England Mind you, I guess if every squad was to produce a player at the level of Rooney, we wouldn't be doing too badly! This is probably the saddest thing I have ever admitted but I love looking through squads of old age tournaments on wiki! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 I've missed the start and just turned on. It's England u17 1 -0 Turkey u17 A lads been out cold for some minutes whilst medics from both countries tend to him which is good to see. Hope the lad's ok. Some concern over his neck. It's an England lad who has just been wheeled off in a full neck brace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Now 2-0. Can't see us losing now which means we play Spain or Germany in the final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 Really good goal. 15 minutes of added time at the end of the half which says something about the seriousness of the injury to the England player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 booo. 2-1 out of nothing. In the 13th minute of stoppage time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 Just into the 2nd half of the final and it's 1-1 vs Spain. Playing OK but similarly to the semi final we started strongly then faded and lost our high press. Turkey couldn't recover 2 goals but Spain did come back well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 Great strike from young Foden from 20+ yards. England 2-1 Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 Spain equalise 6 minutes into stoppage time following poor cynical coaching and rubbish goalkeeping. Straight to penalties - no extra time- and England took 2 strikers off in extra time to waste time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 Lost 4-1 on penalties. Took first and scored. Then Spain scored 2, we missed next 2 and Spain scored both theirs. Disappointing end but you can see the seeds of some familiar themes.... - getting a lead then dropping ever deeper - poorly thought through defensive subs - not enough players who can maintain technique under pressure. One of our penalty misses very unlucky- hit inside of post with keeper well beat. The other was a lean back hoof over the bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sRam Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Tbh these tournaments are not about winning. More about what the players learn and maybe they'll use this defeat to push on. Winning the comp in 2010 and 2014 hasn't seen our first team improve dramatically but would've been nice for the players to have the medals. Sad when you've got 40yr old men on twitter calling 16yr olds bottlers. It was interesting that other teams coaches were complimenting the technique and style of the English team throughout the tournament. Can't imagine that's happened too often before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 That defeat was English management through the ages. Leading 15 minutes from time, take off your central midfield player and two wide players who collectively had been dominant throughout the match, hey presto, no 'out-ball' - so it came back time after time. The result was utterly predictable from that moment on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 8 hours ago, eddie said: That defeat was English management through the ages. Leading 15 minutes from time, take off your central midfield player and two wide players who collectively had been dominant throughout the match, hey presto, no 'out-ball' - so it came back time after time. The result was utterly predictable from that moment on. Agreed. In fact, the coach didn't learn even within the same game. Got the lead first half, the Spain centre half started bringing the ball out to beat our high press so our solution was to drop deeper and give up territory and possession. Result - deserved Spain equaliser. We then up our tempo again after half time, get the 2-1 then rinse and repeat - with the addition of the substitutes as noted above. Seems that as soon as there is a shell to crawl into, the management team take us there. Shame as the lads were generally very good. Couple of good ball playing centre halves, but our midfield players looked a bit small and got overrun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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