Who is in the know?

[RamNut]

Here's the truth, or as much of it as I can share... 

Due to my line of work I have recently happened upon a friendship (a few months ago now) with an employee at the club. I cannot say much more on who that person is, but they're not on the playing staff nor in the boardroom. 

I have not once asked for any news or info from this 'source'. But we were discussing the club one afternoon in a cafe, I asked about the injury to Will and the source told me we'd been monitoring Butterfield at Huddersfield prior to this and that because Sam Rush was once with Wasserman (sports agency), he knew Butterfield's agent (same agency) and felt the player would want the move. Is that tapping up? I've no idea. And don't care. Ruthless business is football. 

Source then updated me whenever they got wind of anything on that. 

I have to say I was quite relieved when it went public that yes we were interested in the player, because I'd have looked a bit silly otherwise, which is why I initially just dropped Butterfield's name into certain threads. But once I was asked for more info, I had to give some sort of bizarre explanation. 

It's been fun though, seeing so called journalist and ITK experts getting so much wrong regards the deal. And I too haven't been 100%. Source told me it was a three year deal, but turns out it was four, this was a late alteration, source told me this morning. I'm also now told the deal is £4.25m up front, and worth £5.25m to Huddersfield potentially. I am fully aware that this is open to debate, I wouldn't put my mortgage on any rumour I hear. However, I will - should the source share anything else in future - be confident of sharing it with you all, my fellow rams.

disappointing.

i preferred the other story of an agent shouting it out loud in a cafe Dom Joly style.

[Duracell]

with our buying power it often does.

for example conor coady.......do you really think wolves would have beaten us to him if we were after him?

Often - but not always.

We have buying power but it's not a simple case of "if we want him, we get him." Could be anything from we made an enquiry to we started talks and he decided it wasn't for him.

I wonder what percentage of player inquiries actually lead to a bid, and then what percentage of bids lead to a sale.

[RamNut]

But as the ball got rolling a bit, HITC were very much spot on with everything just as they were with Bradley Johnson.

For those that don't find them a credible source. I keep telling you to provide me a link where they've posted rubbish, you won't find one - because they haven't! 

nuhiu, brownhill, coady, mascarell, martin to leave, bannon - all wrong

see the transfer thread and the opening post each time.

[RamNut]

Often - but not always.

We have buying power but it's not a simple case of "if we want him, we get him." Could be anything from we made an enquiry to we started talks and he decided it wasn't for him.

I wonder what percentage of player inquiries actually lead to a bid, and then what percentage of bids lead to a sale.

could be BS too.

[Bris Vegas]

nuhiu, brownhill, coady, mascarell, martin to leave, bannon - all wrong

see the transfer thread and the opening post each time.

That makes no sense. For Nuhiu for example, it said Derby were considering making a move. That doesn't mean they made a move. I considered eating Pizza for lunch, yet instead I ended up eating chicken salad.

In none of those above did it say Derby were going to sign those players. They didn't even report on a bid, just links etc. How is this wrong? If every club bought everyone they took an interest in they'd make 100 signings per window.

Brownhill, for instance. The article wrote:

The likes of Swansea City, Southampton andBournemouth are considering offers, while Championship sides Derby County, Middlesbrough,Burnley and Wolverhampton Wanderers are also keeping close tabs on his situation.

That doesn't imply any of those clubs have made a bid, or that any of those clubs were going to sign him. In Derby's case, he was simply one we were keeping tabs on, quite literally.

How does that make the site wrong if Derby didn't buy him?

[Thierry Ennui]

Bris and HITC sitting in a tree...

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Bris and HITC sitting in a tree...

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[RamNut]

That makes no sense. For Nuhiu for example, it said Derby were considering making a move. That doesn't mean they made a move. I considered eating Pizza for lunch, yet instead I ended up eating chicken salad.

In none of those above did it say Derby were going to sign those players. They didn't even report on a bid, just links etc. How is this wrong? If every club bought everyone they took an interest in they'd make 100 signings per window.

Brownhill, for instance. The article wrote:

The likes of Swansea City, Southampton andBournemouth are considering offers, while Championship sides Derby County, Middlesbrough,Burnley and Wolverhampton Wanderers are also keeping close tabs on his situation.

That doesn't imply any of those clubs have made a bid, or that any of those clubs were going to sign him. In Derby's case, he was simply one we were keeping tabs on, quite literally.

How does that make the site wrong if Derby didn't buy him?

its a non-story in that case. How does anyone know what Derby County are " thinking about doing" .

had we signed Nuhiu you'd be claiming it,  a la Malcolm MacDonald.

[Bris Vegas]

its a non-story in that case. How does anyone know what Derby County are " thinking about doing" .

had we signed Nuhiu you'd be claiming it,  a la Malcolm MacDonald.

That still doesn't make any sense - a non-story? Surely Derby County identify plenty of potential targets, and consider buying them. As a fan, aren't you interested in knowing who they've identified - or who they might try and sign?

It can also be a negotiating tactic. Make interest known, get into the mind of the player - player wants to leave.

Moreover, agents are forever talking with players and enquiries are made. Lets not to be naive and overrule the idea that Derby contacted Butterfield's agent before a bid was made to see if he would be interested in joining.

Had we signed Nuhiu, then of course HITC were the first to make public Derby's interest. But just because Derby are interested, doesn't mean a deal was always going to happen.

If HITC reported that Derby were going to sign him, or smash their club transfer record on X player and that never happens, then by all means call them up on it and label them wrong.

You can't label a site for being wrong for posting links though, that's daft. Like the De Gea example above, did whoever break that story get it wrong? Because by your criteria, they did.

Also regarding Nuhiu, it seems a question was posed and Sheffield Wednesday flatly denied he was for sale and so that was the end of it. 

Enquiries are extremely commom in football, and they do get out.

[McRamFan]

I'm #ITK,  just have a memory like a sieve.