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KRAM

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  1. On 05/12/2021 at 10:03, PistoldPete said:

    I think I have been at acceptance stage since we went into admin... really if the wish fairy had said due to cutbacks she could only offer two wishes instead of three, one of them would be to ensure we still have a club even if we have to accept dropping into League One. 

    I always thought we had a good case against the 12 point deduction but was never sure whether it would make any difference to us as we had so many other problems anyway, and so it seems to be turning out.

    My anger is at the whole situation, and by no means do I only blame Mel Morris. The whole system is corrupt, including the Sky TV money, the EFL, the Government closing the stadium without compensating the club . Maybe HMRC now if they are playing hard ball. So that anger certainly hasn't passed.

     

    You’re still in denial. Everyone else to blame. Derby supporters are to blame for this. While Big Uncle Mel was playing Russian roulette with the club the South Stand were singing “he’s one of our own” and “duck the EFL”. It’s was as pathetic then as it is now. 
     

    The absolute state of us, acquiescing to the club going bang on the off chance that Anya, Lawrence, Bennett (another “he’s one of our own”) et al could deliver us to the promised land. Embarrassing.

    If my 13 year old son could see right through Derby supporters self serving bs why couldn’t grown adults?

  2. On 06/12/2021 at 11:19, Ghost of Clough said:

    So because the sale will take a couple of weeks longer than expected we'll now face a fire sale?

    No doubt some players, notably Lawrence, will be sold to reduce costs, but that was always going to be the case.

    Selling Lawrence only reduces the CURRENT losses by 10%.
     

    What sale?

     

    Derby County fans need to wake up, brace for liquidation and resurrect the club themselves from the ashes. All else is noise.

  3. On 06/12/2021 at 10:23, Curtains said:

    Seems likely according to article in the Athletic

    ”The administrators’ initial hope was that Derby would have found a new owner before the January transfer window. Their prediction has now been extended to the end of January at the earliest, meaning that, to prevent the club from suffering a grave fate, Derby will almost certainly have to sell players.”

     

    The implication is that we have other midfielders coming through and if their sale could let the club survive it would be a good thing. 

    Prime example of la la land Derby County fans. The administrator will of course sell. Relegation is assured, I see some are still thinking it won’t happen??, the club is making a loss of over a million a month, they have a wage and a value. 

    This is so naive. They’ll be sold in a heartbeat.

  4. On 14/10/2021 at 00:38, RAM1966 said:

    The Administrators are ruthless, there is no way on this earth they would risk £300K if they did not think there was a reasonable prospect of a result.   Not only that it may slow down the negotiations for prospective buyers!

    Firstly the EFL have to defer this to an independent panel and they also have zero right to appeal if we win!  Unlike there other kangaroo disciplinary processes.........

    How did that go for ya?

  5. 17 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said:

    I think they are aiming to sort out the EFl before the takeover   He suggested EFl had been dragging feet but had ‘now’ begun to engage. 
     

    the admins want buyers to sharpen their pencils and buyers can only do this if they know where we stand with EFl.   Hoskins did not completely rule out that points could be deducted next season 
     

    I’m worried about the EFl tbh   The Gibson camp will be looking at our good form, and will reckon we can avoid the drop if we have no more than - 15 and if we strengthen in Jan. So there may be in-fighting at the EFl which might delay resolution. 
     

     

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  6. 5 hours ago, RamsfanJim said:

    It has been suggested to me that I should use this forum to receive views on the Trust and things we can do better. Over the last 20 years I have seen plenty of negative comments about the Trust, but few constructive suggestions on how we can improve and gain more members.

    We are the only recognised Supporters Trust for Derby County, so it is important that we are as representative as possible. We will never all agree, but we do seek to represent supporters the best we can.

    I promise I will read all responses, but cannot guarantee always being able to respond as I already get 100s of messages / emails every day.

    Jim Wheeler.

    The very fact that you were referring to him as Mel was an embarrassment. Am a trust member, but think you are no way strident enough. The trust hopes for good owners, you should be looking for supporter representation on the board, no less and no compromise.

     

  7. On 14/10/2021 at 00:38, RAM1966 said:

    The Administrators are ruthless, there is no way on this earth they would risk £300K if they did not think there was a reasonable prospect of a result.   Not only that it may slow down the negotiations for prospective buyers!

    Firstly the EFL have to defer this to an independent panel and they also have zero right to appeal if we win!  Unlike there other kangaroo disciplinary processes.........

    Like the ruthless Wigan ones?

  8. On 10/10/2021 at 18:34, Mckram said:

    Anyone arguing that appealing is a waste of money and we should have used it for those that have been made redundant need to realise that without appealing there’s a good chance more jobs will be lost if we end up in league 1. If we stay in the Championship by a point or 2 because of a won appeal, then we’re protecting more jobs in the longer term and those that lost jobs may possibly get them back.

    Well why don’t you crowd fund it if you are so confident. Then throw the money you raise down the toilet of an appeal.

  9. 1 hour ago, PistoldPete said:

    Well I think you are mistaken... I think Morris would have taken advice before Keogh was offered reduced terms , just as he took advice from his accountants on Derby's audit policy. but the EFL overruled that too. If Morris "had done things properly" in your eyes, we would have paid Keogh £2million for doing nothing for 15 months then he would have come back from injury and I do not think he is a better defender now than Jags or Curtis Davies and not much younger either. Also I doubt Keogh will get his £2million now anyway, he along with many creditors will need to accept a pence in the pound compromise.   

    He’s a football creditor so he will get his money. More ******** Morris has forced on the club.

  10. 7 hours ago, jono said:

    I am not denying that MM was sailing close to the wind and was part of the problem, but given we had a bigger hit to revenue than other clubs .. simply because we are one of the better supported clubs. and we also didn’t “qualify” for the 8 million loan. Kind of 

    But more to the point .. tell me how many championship (none parachute ) clubs lose money every year. Answer = most of them. Then tell me what industry has healthy demand, relatively high prices but can’t make profits ? 
     

    going in to Admin is the final straw, agreed, but the financial structure is a mess. Are you saying it is all rosy and frightfully well organised and other clubs aren’t in big trouble ? ?

    Part of the problem? Uncle Mel was the problem. He was gambling with the club and Derby supporters allowed him to. Diverting it on to the EFL and all this EFL is out to get us nonsense is like the bonehead in front of me who thinks every ref who comes to PP is biased against Derby.

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