EdinburghRam Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 as much as I hate davies he is a proven manager at this level.Clough isnt.he has been here two years and the improvement is minimal. Davies is proven at this level, but would you really want him here as manager? I wouldn't, and I'm sure many agree with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Davies is proven at this level, but would you really want him here as manager? I wouldn't, and I'm sure many agree with me I am not saying I want him back.Im stating his record at this level.For the record I dont want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghRam Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I am not saying I want him back.Im stating his record at this level.For the record I dont want him. Yeah his record at this level is very impressive, agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 So if we replace Clough with a proven manager and he does no better, what then? Get another one? The argument may not wash with you but fact is getting in a proven manager is no guarantee of anything. we were saying if you have a proven manager it has a better chance of working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 we were saying if you have a proven manager it has a better chance of working. Exactly,look at QPR.Warnock is a pain in the neck but he does the job brilliantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 exactly I would love to have warnock here as a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbiean Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Aye and Roy Hodgson at Liverpool worked well didnt it? So did George Burley at Palace hmm? Proven managers mess up from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 yes but they have a better chance of succeeding than managers who aren't proven, Dalgliesh at liverpool is experienced and successful, wenger, Ferguson, redknapp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superam Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Well you say proven managers can do the job, but does that not also depend on the amount of support they get from their boards. Warnock has had money to spend, until he was at Palace, which is partly why he left them. He was well suppotred at Shefield United and now at QPR. Billy Davies did well with Preston, with us he had support and at Forest he has also had financial support. Whats's he going to do in the Premier League with Forest, probably buy nobody and get them relegated in an embaressing manner. Its as much about resources at this level, unless you have a great manager like Holloway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonwright Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 QPR had Hulse and Ishmael Miller on the bench today. When you look at the squad, and players they have brought in, Warnock will have failed badly if they DON'T get promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 QPR had Hulse and Ishmael Miller on the bench today. When you look at the squad, and players they have brought in, Warnock will have failed badly if they DON'T get promoted. but HE got them in,and HE will get them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footymadme Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 neil warnock.... agreed , he knows his football and the players who can play it ....but , he is a loud mouth prat and is also known for wearing plus-fours on the touchline at Pride Park :confused::confused:queer or what....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonwright Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 but HE got them in,and HE will get them up. I doubt they went their because they liked the smell of his aftershave. Not saying he doesn't get credit, but the amount of money a club has to spend has a big role in determining reasonable expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I would rather have billy than nigel, my dad met billy the day he was sacked because he lived near us and he said the directors would be gone within 6 months and he felt sorry for the fans and that the board then were only in it for the money, plus davies got us promotion. It was common knowledge that a deal was about to be struck at that time,so no great revelation there.AP indicated that the (then) prospective new owners were in the loop over Jewell,and Jewell himself said that he knew the owners were coming,upon his appointment.From memory,GS Derby (UK)Ltd was incorporated in November 07. If the LOG were purely in it for the money,they could have signed nobody upon promotion and banked the bonanza.They had put in £7m of their own money to help fund the promotion season-there's no guarantee they wouldn't have lost the lot if things had gone wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 but since we did go up and invested minimally to me it would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 but since we did go up and invested minimally to me it would make sense. Over £10m in the first window is hardly minimal-I wonder if the 3 promoted clubs from last season have spent much more than that combined? It's not the amount spent that's the issue so much as the 'quality' that was bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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