Leeds Ram Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 no my opinons are based upon that even though we have our fair share of crocks that we did have a lot of needless injuries last season, and many people agreed, the coaching team is basiclly the same one he had at burton, anyway yeah it will be hard to shift them, maybe we should cancel their contracts? that way at least we would have room to sign fit players who arn't always injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 You can't just cancel contracts YR, it costs money. We aint got any, spent it on paying Barnes off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 "Many people agreed" who? are these people who attend training sessions? Also did Burton have the same injury problems?, like you say it's the same staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 but there is a MASSIVE difference in fitness at non league to championship level, and you know as well as i do that there were a lot of niggles last season and that many people wern't content about why these players were injured, and unfortunatly boycie yeah it does cost money but it costs money to keep them on anyway unfortunatly, i would rather get rid of persistently injured players because then we have a true reflection on what the squad is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Will you two kiss and make up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 lol i have nothing against daveo, i have never insulted him or spoke perosnally about him, I have great respect for him because he makes good points, however we do disagree on a few things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 Young Ram, the same bunch of sicknotes have had injury problems all they're careers, look at the profiles on the Official Site and look at how many games they have played each season for different clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Young Ram, the same bunch of sicknotes have had injury problems all they're careers, look at the profiles on the Official Site and look at how many games they have played each season for different clubs. yes but we had 17 players out at one time, are you honestly suggesting all 17 players have been crocks for their careers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 If you list the 17 that were injured at the same time I will look at the official site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 If you pay out a players contract, it hardly gives you scope to go and buy another player does it? Unless the player agrees a reduced amount or agrees to retire due to injury, then the insurance pay out. I wouldn't agree to a less than contract pay off, if I thought that I'd struggle to get another club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 I think we should end it here the honest fact is that neither of us truly knows what is happening in training, club finances transfer policy ect, we both try to draw conclusions with what we ahve available and come up with different answers let's wait and see until 10 games in to the season and see where we are then, if we finish 12th or above i will apologise and admit i was wong, if we finish 15th or lower will you admit you were wrong over some aspects? truce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Off course in real life, I'm a ***** hot sparky, who'd walk into any other electrical contracting companies team. (polishes nails on sweaty polo shirt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 it is a good point boycie and we are in a difficult situation with these crocks, in all honesty i dont know what i would do since i have never been in that position, i think we need to get a look at the squad without players hwo are injured all the time and counting them though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Off course in real life, I'm a ***** hot sparky, who'd walk into any other electrical contracting companies team. (polishes nails on sweaty polo shirt) i was talking to daveo as well, we have beena rguing about this for what seems forever lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 League positions won't alter what your saying about the training methods, one thing you are correct about is neither of us really know, that is why I'm saying you can't just point the finger at Clough and his coaching team everytime a player picks up an injury or has a runny nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 League positions won't alter what your saying about the training methods, one thing you are correct about is neither of us really know, that is why I'm saying you can't just point the finger at Clough and his coaching team everytime a player picks up an injury or has a runny nose. i agree davies is unavoidable and certain ones are truly unavoidable e.g mceveley at middlesborough ect, but i believe that things like hamstrings are potentially unavoidable, and yes i do moan a lot about this management team and backroom staff, probablly too much but it was a long season last season and i fear it may be again and tbh i go week in week out, can't get a job because none are about so spend a lot of money on following derby to away games as well when i can, only went to i think about 8-9 last year but for me that adds up to a lot, i'm only 16 lol so 100-200 quid is a lot and it annoys me that the club doesn't look like it's going anywhere and it is frustrating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 We're not going anywhere, we're reducing the debts and stabilising the club, the situation hasn't changed since the Americans came. OK it doesn't sound great and we all want Premiership football but as the Guinness adverts say, good things come to those who wait, and Take That would say...have a little patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 young ram is right.end of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 No he is not, well some bits but mostly not. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Young Ram, I think that you talk some sense. Daveo is running scared and you have him on the ropes, go for the kill mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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