overlandandsea

I agree, don't care what they do as they represent such a tiny minority of fans. 

It annoys me they get behind this fan-led review which had 77000 replies, not all positive. Not 77000 from Derby, but the whole of the country. As a % of interested football fans that attend or view, that is very very small number. 

As a business you would not base your sales strategy around such a small cross section, many of whom will be members of a trust/FSA and in favour regardless. 

Hopefully it never comes in

So is Jim no longer involved? Just a few weeks ago he was being introduced as RT chair at the We Are Derby launch event and made no attempt to correct it. Is this no longer a RT project? 

Who voted in this new election? 

How come someone is co-opted as second in command and not from the existing board? 

Is being a member of the Labour Party an un-written pre-requisite of joining RT, as they seem to be Labour councillors, Labour election candidates etc? 

I'm new to this forum, so I don't know the history of how, where, when , who it was created.

How come (the admins) are owed nearly £4k for services.

Can someone explain? 

29 minutes ago, RamsfanJim said:

Continuing to represent members at club meetings and in the media. Contributing to national supporters campaigns (including: meeting in Parliament to promote safe standing - which has been successful, fan-led review - presented to Tracey Crouch, reporting next month). Got all supporters groups together to force the club to actually respond to supporters. There are also multiple occasions we have represented fans concerns (both general and individual) which the club has acted on. 

so, to me in the South Stand, that means nothing...what about cheaper tickets, cheap away travel, greater choice in the concourse, fans picking the kit colours/style, items in the Megastore, allowing home fans buses and cars to leave before the away fan coaches..I think most people recognise that fan-led review doen't have any  real fans on it so impossible to make any sensible suggestions. 

20 minutes ago, angieram said:

Whereas you joined here yesterday without any agenda? 

your point is?

2 minutes ago, overlandandsea said:

how many of those joining or have joined have read the aims, objectives, powers etc?  and note the small print on the internal forum that  try to stop you telling anything outside the internal forum (RT NDA, if you like). Heaven only knows what are saying on there about everyone else or trying to paper over the cracks of wayward board members

For clarity, because I for one don't know, and I'm sure many others don't know either - can RT list any/all achievements in the last 5-10 years?

Just now, overlandandsea said:

I might want to join to change the rules, objectives to make it more appealing, as well as removing the fee...but as I dont agree with the rules as they stand, my application will get rejected 

how many of those joining or have joined have read the aims, objectives, powers etc?  and note the small print on the internal forum that  try to stop you telling anything outside the internal forum (RT NDA, if you like). Heaven only knows what are saying on there about everyone else or trying to paper over the cracks of wayward board members

9 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

What? Why not? Don't see what your point was.

I might want to join to change the rules, objectives to make it more appealing, as well as removing the fee...but as I dont agree with the rules as they stand, my application will get rejected 

7 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

First bit: how?!

Second bit: If people joined then they could do some 'engaging'. There are lots of examples in the world where small amounts of people do all the work while others sit back and enjoy the work done. RT is no different.

We're talking about democracy here. How many people even vote in their local council elections let alone get involved? 

There's only a vague consensus about things Derby County on this forum. Look on other DCFC forums and 'our' consensus often isn't theirs!

Join RT and change things, don't join and accept what RT is.

Join RT and change things, don't join and accept what RT is...isn't this the problem. I don't like the 'supporter representation' thing, or necessarily the co-operative/labour influences within RT but I won't be allowed to join to try and change things with new or different ideas. As others have said, if there was Trust/movement with 20,000  fans it would carry a lot of weight, but I can't see how that is going to happen.

and  a final thought, if the new owner does like the idea of a supporter sitting in some meetings, why should it come from RT - should it not be a democratic vote amongst all fans (maybe just ST holders) from those interested in the job, have the qualifications and time for it