Day Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Ched Evans sentenced to five years after being found guilty of rape. Port Vale's Clayton MacDonald found not guilty https://twitter.com/#!/skysportsmobile/status/193346298978639872 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 More detail http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17781842 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Having read that it doesn't make any sense.. How is one found guilty and the other not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nookiebear Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 especially seeing as the other one brought the bird in off the street and drilled her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake n Bake Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I don't want to sound like I'm standing up for Evans but i struggle to see from the evidence listed on the BBC, how he was found guilty? I don't get how Evans has been charged and the other lad not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I got the jist that MacDonald took her back to the hotel room, started doing the deed and then walked out when Ched Evans arrived and asked if he could join in.. He then went down to reception and asked the duty manager to make sure she got home OK.. (Sounds rather normal) What sounded dodgy was why Ched Evans wanted to join in and then why did he leave through the Emergency exit without telling anyone.. I guess the woman was completely out of it while Ched Evans decided to have his turn then left without anyone wanting to know about it (It does sound dodgy as hell on his part) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 But as you say Shake n Bake, if she said yes and was in control of her actions, how is that rape? If she wasn't in control of he actions from the beginning, surely MacDonald would have realised this and taken advantage anyway.. Sounds strange either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I assume more details will come out, and the BBC have just given a quick overview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastKentRam Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 If the bird cant remember anything how does she know she consented to MacDonald doing her but not Ched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dawn Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Dont drop the soap Ched, scumbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Like Red_Dawn says, either way Ched is scum.. Who would honestly want to nail a drunk girl after your friend has just finished with her.. Not only that, the trouble he went to to doing it, decieving the checker for the keycard, entering the room whilst the others are at it and then asks to 'join in' all this whilst he had a girlfriend at the time.. He is scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 No sympathy for the ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 No. Neither have I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I dont get this at all, how it can be consent to one and not the other unless there is video evidence that shows what he has done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramexpat Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 what goes around comes around ,, They will give him some extra "special" attention on the inside ...... (double meaning there folks 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I'm not sure how the jury has reached it's verdict on his mate, it does seem odd. The video evidence which another guy got from outside the window (nice 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angry' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':angry:' /> ) may have swayed their decision and maybe sealed his fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nookiebear Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 isnt the girl "allegedly" an ex cardiff/leeds chairmans daughter?? only a roumer tho..so not sure if i can post this..hence the vauge nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake n Bake Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 It says she might have had her drink spiked so surely the other guy was guilty? Doesn't make sense really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Never like him for the simple reason that its CHAD not Ched!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Well he got what he deserved in my view. It clearly wasn't really consensual as the woman was in no fit state to consent to commit that action. However how Mr Donaldson wasn't found guilty is beyond me. The only way I can explain it is if Mr Evans knew she was intoxicated beyond belief and planned to sleep with her during that period, where as maybe Mr Donaldson wasn't aware she was in such a state and just stated he had found a girl willing to sleep with him. However I am bemused by the decision to send one down and not another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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