Curtains Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 According to Mail on News Now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Radio Derby said this morning that Green was to be made a new offer. No mention of Ward though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Apparently the paper said that Ward was being offered a contract to stave of interest from Leicester. Now, call my cynical, but I doubt we'd be doing anything to diminish Leicester's interest in Ward. If we could convince Leicester to pay twice what Jamie is worth then I reckon Tom Glick would deliver him personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Apparently the paper said that Ward was being offered a contract to stave of interest from Leicester. Now, call my cynical, but I doubt we'd be doing anything to diminish Leicester's interest in Ward. If we could convince Leicester to pay twice what Jamie is worth then I reckon Tom Glick would deliver him personally. There is no recent evidence to support that view. The current owners have not forced the sale of anyone who is useful to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Think Greenies wage could be spent better elsewhere, so hope we aren't giving him the same deal or higher. I like the bloke, but in our current situation we've got to get the best for what we pay and he isn't it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Think Greenies wage could be spent better elsewhere, so hope we aren't giving him the same deal or higher. I like the bloke, but in our current situation we've got to get the best for what we pay and he isn't it! given his versatility, you'd potentially need three other players to replace him - plus any replacement would probably need us to pay a fee - if he re-signs on similar terms, it makes sense to me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 There is no recent evidence to support that view. The current owners have not forced the sale of anyone who is useful to us. Not saying that it's a forced sale, but every player has their price. Leicester's recent history suggests that that price is doubled when they come sniffing. Selling a player - any player - for a good fee is not, in itself a bad thing, the important thing then is what happens to the money. If we got £4m for Jamie Ward which allowed Nigel to buy and pay the three quality players that I reckon we are short of to be genuine playoff contenders, then it could only be a good thing. If we sold Ward and the money went to pay down the debt owed to the investors, then it would be a bad thing. Until it happens we won't know which way things will work out. My point was that the club needs money, and interest from Leicester in a player is often a very good way for a club to get some money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 i don't know about Mr Glick delivering him personally, if we could get 4 million for Ward, I would carry him there! Lazy, nothinghappeningateitherclubbecausetheyarebothoutofanypromotionchaseandtheirseasonsareover, paper talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Not saying that it's a forced sale, but every player has their price. Leicester's recent history suggests that that price is doubled when they come sniffing. Selling a player - any player - for a good fee is not, in itself a bad thing, the important thing then is what happens to the money. If we got £4m for Jamie Ward which allowed Nigel to buy and pay the three quality players that I reckon we are short of to be genuine playoff contenders, then it could only be a good thing. If we sold Ward and the money went to pay down the debt owed to the investors, then it would be a bad thing. Until it happens we won't know which way things will work out. My point was that the club needs money, and interest from Leicester in a player is often a very good way for a club to get some money. I agree completely with that.... certainly every player has his price and it never does any harm to freshen the side up with a new face or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I would happily sell Ward for 2 million as long as the money is reinvested, we have several lightweight midfielders and, in my opinion, we need to swap some of these for stronger players who can dictate the game from midfield. Ward is creative, but in just about any other Derby team of the last few years he would have been far from the most creative player in the side. Four goals and four assists I think it is from him in 30 odd games this season, 2 million could buy us far more creativity than this. I would like to see us sign two strong proper wingers and someone who can dictate the play from the centre of midfield. If we do that we would not have a significant need for Ward or Green, so selling Ward for 2 million and using this and the saving of both wages to bring in the three players mentioned would be good business in my mind. With a strong midfield controlling play and creating chances I would see our strikers scoring plenty of goals without any investment in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I assume the offer to Ward mentioned is exercising the one year option we have on his current deal with a bit of tweaking on wages. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I am not sure that there is one player on the books that I WOULDN'T sell for 2 million.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I am not sure that there is one player on the books that I WOULDN'T sell for 2 million.. Good point 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotherhamRam Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Good point 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Shackell we def got him on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Bloody hell. This feels like new signing to me. Made up if he signs it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 I have a bad feeling that if we get 2 million for somebody we will spend half of it at the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Yes – the Ward offer is to activate his one year extension and the Green offer – well I suspect this is just the club manoeuvring to put the blame on Greeny and his agent when they don’t sign. You’ll notice the press release doesn’t mention it being an “improved” offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Yes – the Ward offer is to activate his one year extension and the Green offer – well I suspect this is just the club manoeuvring to put the blame on Greeny and his agent when they don’t sign. You’ll notice the press release doesn’t mention it being an “improved” offer. That said he was offered the opportunity to move on, and it would seem nobody took the bait. Maybe he was holding out for an offer when there's no real appetite for him being signed up anywhere. In that case, would you offer him an improved deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 It seems to me that they've been dead straight with Greeny. Told him they'd like to keep him but can only offer, say, half of what he's on now and given him the chance to find another club willing to pay him close to his current wage. I reckon he'll end up staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimacked Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Suppose the owners might be prepared to match Green's current wage now that the FFP rules look like they've been scuppered. Maybe they have given Nigel a tiny bit of flexibility with the wage bill. Just a thought! Otherwise, maybe they offered him a ridiculously low wage and he is never going to sign it, but they can say, they have actually offered him a new deal. Otherwise, if Green does sign for a lower wage than what he is currently on that would be a good tonic for the football club as a whole as he can cover a couple of positions and also is one of the older heads in the squad. Probably though there would be some kind of cheap release fee involved. Likewise with Ward if he signs on again, it helps the club keep hold of two or their more "saleable assets". If these players then become wanted by other clubs, we would at least get a reasonable fee for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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