mozza Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 if not..who is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randombc Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I never had the pleasure of seeing the likes of pele or maradona play, but for me it's difficult to say how he could be better, he's extremely quick, his touch is phenomenal and whatever situation he's in, it looks like he's been in the same situation 100 times before and knows how to get around the problem, the man is a genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 agreed, ive seen Best and Charlton and the rest..but Messi is better in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 As random says, never seen the greats but I can't imagine footballers better than this guy, speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsilks Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 He has yet to quite repeat his club heroics for his country but I would say that he is potentially the world's greatest ever player. He's certainly the greatest player of his generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Scored a hat trick for Argentina t'other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 4th top scorer of all-time in the champions league (and equivalents) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsilks Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Pele is still and will in my lifetime be the greatest player ever. Look at his stats. He scored 1152 goals in 1220 games for Santos and New York Cosmos. Internationally, he scored 77 goals in 92 games. Neither Maradona or Messi come close to that feat and I doubt anyone ever will. Messi has the chance to if he starts producing the same club and country form and that will be helped if Argentina start producing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi1Kenobi0 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I would say he is. I reckon champions league football is more competitive than international football. He doesn't have a weakness. Seems a nice guy as well. The only thing I would say is he is also in a hell of a side (the best club team of all time imo), especially when you've got xavi, iniesta and fabregas supplying you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 no doubt that he is a great player .....but- it is far easier to score than it used to be. There was a time when you needed 3 players playing you onside (usually 2 outfield and a keeper). Also strikers are given the benefit of the doubt when looking at offside. Another factor is that Mark Wright would have cleaned him out all day long with no foul being given back in the day, So in my book no he isn't a patch on Pele and Maradona- be careful though, you can be a great player if you aren't a goalscorer (P.Shilton anyone?). Besides that- he has crap hair and no character, just a cheesy grin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi1Kenobi0 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Comparisons between eras are always hard. Pele, Messi & Maradona probably have/had similar talent. Just saying Messi on the basis I've seen him play and also on the fact that he plays champions league every year. I think Wenger came out and said Messi was the best of all time. Be interesting to think if there is/was a defender of any era who could stop him. And no, not Mark Wright. Maybe Beckenbauer? In the modern era I'm even thinking Paul McGrath. A defender with guile and intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Ah, we'll never know. He's the best player I've ever seen, but I haven't seen every player in the world, let alone in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramexpat Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 and remember he is still only 23,, scary to think how good he will be in a few years time ,, for me he is the best player i have seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsilks Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 and remember he is still only 23,, scary to think how good he will be in a few years time ,, for me he is the best player i have seen He's 24 now and 25 in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 He needs to do it at International level, as in, at the World Cup, the other true greats practically won the World Cup for their country singe handedly, once Messi has done this, then, yes, he will be the grestest ever. Like someoen has said, he certinainly has time on his side. I tell this story to anyone, everytime they are speakign of him, i met him a few years ago in Basel, when Barca were playing there, and asked him, via a translation from Terry Henry if he would come and play for Derby soon, and they BOTH promised me that they would. I am still waiting for them to come good on the deal, hopeful...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramexpat Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 He's 24 now and 25 in June. thanks for the correction pal, 23,24, 25,26 ,,he's Still hopefully going to be around for a long time, its aweseom watching him play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekkie_ram Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Take Messi out of Barcelona, and he'll be half the player. Don't mis-understand me, he is amazing, and watching Barcelona play is a treat, but I cannot see him doing as well in the Prem as C.Ronaldo did (for example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 He needs to do it at International level, as in, at the World Cup, the other true greats practically won the World Cup for their country singe handedly, once Messi has done this, then, yes, he will be the grestest ever. Like someoen has said, he certinainly has time on his side. I tell this story to anyone, everytime they are speakign of him, i met him a few years ago in Basel, when Barca were playing there, and asked him, via a translation from Terry Henry if he would come and play for Derby soon, and they BOTH promised me that they would. I am still waiting for them to come good on the deal, hopeful...... I'd consider re-mortgaging my house and renewing my season ticket, when he signs .. keep reminding him Muespach, a promise is a promise after all. 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 No, not yet but for me he has the potential to become at least as good as Pele. Though he might not quite get there. Hopefully he can stay injury free and have a long career. Pele's statistics are quite incredible and he played at the time the hacking and whacking against him was just brutal. Also the clubs he played for were never as great as Barca is now. But I believe Messi can achieve the same that Pele did. Both at the club level and internationally. At least it will be interesting to follow him. Must mention that even though Maradona's statistics aren't as great he was exceptionally good. The fact that he played as a midfielder is one reason that he did not get as many goals of course. But he did have a magic touch and his free kicks were always amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 He's not the greatest player ever, he's just a very naughty boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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