networker1884 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Fair enough. Maybe he shouldn't be walking into the team. But he hasn't played enough to have full match fitness/ confidence. I believe he should be coming off the bench this season. Then to get a good pre-season and be fighting fit and confident next season, we'll see what he can do then. Fair enough. Maybe he shouldn't be walking into the team. But he hasn't played enough to have full match fitness/ confidence. I believe he should be coming off the bench this season. Then to get a good pre-season and be fighting fit and confident next season, we'll see what he can do then. Yeah, ok. Agree with that. I still thinks he's the 3rd, perhaps 4th best striker/forward we've got though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 How many games has he played? Exactly. It's March. He was injury prone at Forest with a poor goal record. He's still the same man in a different shirt from the looks of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkoRam Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Neither are wide men. Tyson maybe can get away with it but Theo is a striker. He has pace to get in behind the defence and also to compensate for an often poor first touch. Also he can finish but his passing etc is not good for that wider support role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 So you clearly never watched the game yesterday then. Theo's first touch was the best I've seen from him yet. He had a great game imo. Well, there must have been two games played at St Andrews then as I thought he was same old and ineffective on the wing in the first half. Improved when he went up top but still his touch and final ball was poor. Gave the ball away for Brum's second and could have done better with the last kick of the game to put Ben Davies in are two key moments that spring straight to mind. Great finish from him for his goal but I didn't think he played "great". He's lethal inside the 18 yard box but out of it he doesn't really look like a footballer to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Well, there must have been two games played at St Andrews then as I thought he was same old and ineffective on the wing in the first half. Improved when he went up top but still his touch and final ball was poor. Gave the ball away for Brum's second and could have done better with the last kick of the game to put Ben Davies in are two key moments that spring straight to mind. Great finish from him for his goal but I didn't think he played "great". He's lethal inside the 18 yard box but out of it he doesn't really look like a footballer to me. There clearly must have been 2 different games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastKentRam Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 There clearly must have been 2 different games. So you didnt see Theo give the ball away for the second goal? Or play that poor pass to Ben Davies at the end? Or how he barely touched the ball first half, and when he did i can remember him mis controlling it at least twice. Cant argue that he took his goal well, but come on, what else did he do apart from that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 So you didnt see Theo give the ball away for the second goal? Or play that poor pass to Ben Davies at the end? Or how he barely touched the ball first half, and when he did i can remember him mis controlling it at least twice. Cant argue that he took his goal well, but come on, what else did he do apart from that? his first touch was terrible on a number of occasions i agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 He also did other things quite well, though. The stuff he's usually applauded for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Well, there must have been two games played at St Andrews then as I thought he was same old and ineffective on the wing in the first half. Improved when he went up top but still his touch and final ball was poor. Gave the ball away for Brum's second and could have done better with the last kick of the game to put Ben Davies in are two key moments that spring straight to mind. Great finish from him for his goal but I didn't think he played "great". He's lethal inside the 18 yard box but out of it he doesn't really look like a footballer to me. Ben Davies wouldn't have scored late on if Theo's pass was inch perfect because Davies was offside. And Shackell was to blame for the second. Infact everyone was to blame, Theo gave the ball away on the edge of Birmingham's box and then they took it the entire length of the field and scored. But obviously its easy to blame Robinson for anything that goes wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Nathan Tyson has played in the second tier 144 times for Reading, Forest and Derby and has scored 10 goals, one goal in 14.4 games. Theo Robinson has played in the second tier 54 times for Watford, Millwall and Derby and has scored 12 goals, one goal in 4.5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Nathan Tyson has played in the second tier 144 times for Reading, Forest and Derby and has scored 10 goals, one goal in 14.4 games. Theo Robinson has played in the second tier 54 times for Watford, Millwall and Derby and has scored 12 goals, one goal in 4.5 games. One of Tysons goals was a keepers kick that hit him in the backside and went in. He's not claiming that! Tbf, I really want Tyson to do well. And I do think he could be a decent right winger for us. But looking at his track record, and his career so far at Derby.... It's no wonder people are short tempered with him as a signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Maybe don't expect miracles, he was a freebie. Just because he was a Forest player that waved a flag he gets a hard time. Any other freebie wouldn't... ...hmmm, remembers early days of Roberts DCFC career. Maybe he'll change minds as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 Maybe don't expect miracles, he was a freebie. Just because he was a Forest player that waved a flag he gets a hard time. Any other freebie wouldn't... ...hmmm, remembers early days of Roberts DCFC career. Maybe he'll change minds as well. Freebie in name only. He will be one of the highest earners in the squad and he will have pocketed a tidy signing-on fee due to his Bosman status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The signing of Tyson is proof of this managers credentials.How anybody can criticise the board for not giving him money is beyond me,when he wastes money in ridiculous signings like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randombc Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I would use Tyson more as a winger then a forward, I know Clough see's him as the opposite, but when I watched forest thats where he was more effective, and he tormented us when we lost 5-2 on the left hand side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Derby County manager Nigel Clough tells BBC Radio Derby that Nathan Tyson has only a 50% chance of being involved against Blackpool, after picking up a foot injury in the draw with Birmingham City. Clough won't risk him.He'll want him fit for the forest game. He'll play Bavies instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asanovic Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Hard to defend this signing. So much pressure on him given where he's come from, he's injury prone, and despite the fact he played alot of games as a winger rather than a forward, supporters look at his goalscoring record. Purely on ability he's probably a good player. But purely on ability doesn't win matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The signing of Tyson is proof of this managers credentials.How anybody can criticise the board for not giving him money is beyond me,when he wastes money in ridiculous signings like this. And this post is proof of your idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I think it was a poor signing. He played on the wing for Forest because he was better there than upfront. They didn't try to restrict a goal machine. He played on the wing for Forest, hardly a defensive position, and despite being a "natural striker" and "being played out of position" and being part of a play off team he didn't score goals. Wingers score goals. I'd expect a natural striker playing on the wing to score just as many. He was always injured at Forest. It's March and he's played a handful of games. Not full games. I'm not a Nathan Tyson fan. I'm not especially a Nigel Clough fan. I'm a Derby fan. I don't support any player unconditionally. I get behind the players on a matchday 100%. every game because it serves the club. Not individual egos But Tyson has been a crap signing. And hes continuing where he left off at Forest. How can anyone say any different?? Unless you are a Nathan Tyson supporter regardless of whether he serves Derby. Support him on matchday by all means. Be open minded to him changing his performances. It's not fickle. DCFC don't owe him. They pay him for a service. Nothing in life is free either. Certainly not a footballer with a signing on fee and THOUSANDS per week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 And this post is proof of your idiocy. how? go on,try and tell me that this is a good signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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