Overrated Footballers

[Dangerous]

I have to disagree with Lampard.

[LeedsCityRam]

John Terry - turning circle of a tanker, wannabe Glory Boy

Yaya Toure - just don't rate him at all, controversial maybe

Cech - very very ordinary keeper. Also Pepe Reina.

Steven Gerrard - nowhere near as good as people think. Positionally dreadful, all Hollywood balls & Roy of the Rovers stuff. Scholes was twice the player Gerrard is.

James Milner, Joleon Lescott & Gareth Barry - utterly utterly average. Sad to think those 3 cost circa £70 million

For those slating Beckham, I think you're confusing celebrity & football. I'm not sure anyone, even within the game would hold him up as an all time great. But technically he is/was fantastic & that delivery of his was lethal - a very good player in an average England team, a vital cog in a fantastic Manu team

[twinkletoes]

every one

[Leicester Ram]

Yaya Toure - just don't rate him at all, controversial

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[size=8]WTF[/size]

[-JW-]

Tiote at Newcastle. People linking him with Man U. No way.

[Leicester Ram]

Tiote at Newcastle. People linking him with Man U. No way.

and chelsea. good player, but havent seen anything top 5 standard apart from that volley against Arsenal.

[EastKentRam]

Craig Mackail Smith - he's exactly the same as Theo but cost about 10 times more.

[orangefleece]

Phil Jones

really ?

[Leicester Ram]

Craig Mackail Smith - he's exactly the same as Theo but cost about 10 times more.

better finishing IMO, but i can see where your coming from........just.

[EastKentRam]

better finishing IMO, but i can see where your coming from........just.

Both scored the same amount this season and CMS has had more game time.

[-JW-]

Pretty much every England international excluding Gerrard, Cole, Rooney and Hart.

[CumbrianRam]

Phil Jones

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Curtis Davies.

[orangefleece]

I've always felt as tho John Barnes was over rated , decent enough club player couldn't do it at International level and lived off one wonder goal against Brazil ( in a friendly ) for the rest of his career.

[DerbyshireFox]

rio ferdinand, recently he has been poor a shadow of his former self

downing

kasper schmeichal

Are you kidding? We would be below Forest if it wasn`t for him. Our best signing this season by far.

If you`re looking for Leicester players, try these.

Wellens

Gallagher

King

[DerbyshireFox]

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[Leeds Ram]

john terry

cech but only after his injury, before that was as good as made out, afterwards he is half the keeper he was

sven

david james

charrager

kanu

kalou

[Ambitious]

what better englishman was better than scholes at that time?

the quote from zidane says it all, if you're getting that sort of recognition from zidane it's not even worth discussing.

pele said mcmananaman was world class at one point, i've never seen it from scholes imo i see gerrards name banded about in this thread but i would see him as a better version of scholes, always thought he was over-rated because he scores goals from outside the box, assists aren't overally impressive and his version of a tackle is a kick, could be said about both players in the above.

and like bergkamp who had flashes of brilliance, but his reputation was the worlds best at one point and i just never thought he was that good, there were a good number of better strikers better in the prem and in the world, in my opinion.

[BorneoRam]

Pele!!!, wtf has he got to do with it? he says whatever people want to hear - he said Nicky Butt and El Hadj diouf were amongst the best in the world and that whatever country he is in could win/host the world cup - if he had commented on scholes I would not have posted it but Zidane is different, he had no reason to say it and he actually played against him which gives him a better perspective than any of us - especially as there were very few players on the planet that appeared to cause him problems. There are a load more quote I could use as well.

To be honest, and I know it is only opinion, I cannot see how anyone could claim Bergkamp and Scholes are overrated, if anything it is the other way around. Ferguson called Scholes "a player of a lifetime" and whatever you may think of SAF he has an eye for a player.

As for Dennis, I just c&p'd this of wiki (based on my previous comments feel free to ignore the bit about Pele's opinion)

Henry -

"Dennis is the best player I have ever played with as a partner. It is a dream for a striker to have him in the team with you

In April 2006, [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Kuper]Simon Kuper wrote in the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Times]Financial Times: "One night last year some legends of Dutch football gathered for dinner in an Amsterdam house. Around midnight conversation turned to an old question: who was the best Dutch footballer ever? Dutchmen have been voted [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Footballer_of_the_Year]European Footballer of the Year seven times, more than any other nationality except Germans. Yet [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Mulder_%28footballer%29]Jan Mulder, a great centre-forward turned writer, chose a player who had never even threatened to win the award nor, at the time, a Champions League: 'Bergkamp. He had the finest technique', said Mulder. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Hiddink]Guus Hiddink, the great Dutch manager, nodded, and so the matter was settled."^{[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Bergkamp#cite_note-69][70]} Bergkamp has received several accolades during his playing career. Twice finishing in third place for the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_FIFA_World_Player_of_the_Year]1993 and [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_FIFA_World_Player_of_the_Year]1996 [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Player_of_the_Year]FIFA World Player of the Year award, he was named in [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_100]FIFA 100 – a list compiled by footballer [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pel%C3%A9]Pelé to determine the 125 greatest living footballers.^{[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Bergkamp#cite_note-79][80]} In his club career, Bergkamp won two successive [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Footballer_of_the_Year]Dutch Footballer of the Year awards in 1991 and 1992 as well as being the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eredivisie#Topscorers]Eredivisie Top Scorer winner for three consecutive seasons (1990–91 to 1992–93). He was named the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FWA_Footballer_of_the_Year]FWA Footballer of the Year and [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PFA_Players%27_Player_of_the_Year]PFA Players' Player of the Year in April and May 1998 respectively as well as making the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PFA_Team_of_the_Year]PFA Team of the Year for the 1997–98 season. Bergkamp also achieved a unique feat in being voted first, second and third on [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match_of_the_Day]Match of the Day's [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goal_of_the_Month]Goal of the Month competition for August 1997.^{[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Bergkamp#cite_note-80][81]} For his national team, Bergkamp was the top goalscorer in [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_1992]Euro 1992 and was selected in the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup_awards#All-Star_Team]FIFA World Cup All-Star Team for the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_FIFA_World_Cup]1998 FIFA World Cup. again I know it is only opinion and I know it is not going to change yours - I just get baffled that when asked to name overrated players from any era someone could possibly come up with those two...