curb Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I felt pretty safe on saturday, and there were plenty of seats available for those who wanted them. I also managed about 15 years on the Ozzie End without hurting myself, it wasn't the terraces that were unsafe it was the fences they put up in front to keep the fans off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Try this.... [url=http://www.safestandingroadshow.co.uk/]www.safestandingroadshow.co.uk/ Are you gonna get this to come to Derby then. Would be cool if you could Glick and Co to meet the FSF people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Not sure what the capacity of the whole north stand is, say is about 6000, if the whole of that stand was made into a standing area would the capacity remain the same or would it increase? and if so how much will it increase by?? I think 6000 seats would increase to just over 10,000 standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Can't do any harm in signing this petition... http://www.fsf.org.uk/petitions/safestanding.php?id=signature_id|desc|11500|&page=view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Why does it automatically assume that the people standing would pay less than those sitting? I can't see Tom agreeing to that, he'd probably want to charge them more to cover the cost of installing the seats and for the enhanced 'matchday experience'. (For the ultimate authentic terrace experience they could charge £10.00 to have someone piss down your leg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Why does it automatically assume that the people standing would pay less than those sitting? I can't see Tom agreeing to that, he'd probably want to charge them more to cover the cost of installing the seats and for the enhanced 'matchday experience'. (For the ultimate authentic terrace experience they could charge £10.00 to have someone piss down your leg) It's cheaper per person, but you can get almost twice as many people in so they get more money from it every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekkie_ram Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I loved the Peterborough experience (well, most of it), and loved that I could have a bit of a wander without disturbing anyone else. I am certain that safe standing won't be as good as old-style terracing, but I am confident it would be a good enough compromise to be a decent atmosphere boost long term, if the board can justify cheaper tickets for the standing, then we'll definitely sell more tickets. Looking at the pictures, I don't see the figures above (6000x = 10000y) adding up. Anyone else getting confused when typing posts, using the term 'seats' for 'tickets', and annoyed that 'stand' is the only word you can think of for the, err, 'stand'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianm Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I loved the Peterborough experience (well, most of it), and loved that I could have a bit of a wander without disturbing anyone else. I am certain that safe standing won't be as good as old-style terracing, but I am confident it would be a good enough compromise to be a decent atmosphere boost long term, if the board can justify cheaper tickets for the standing, then we'll definitely sell more tickets. Looking at the pictures, I don't see the figures above (6000x = 10000y) adding up. Anyone else getting confused when typing posts, using the term 'seats' for 'tickets', and annoyed that 'stand' is the only word you can think of for the, err, 'stand'. I think the 10,000 is more likely to be 7-8000. Imagine though if the North Stand was filled every week with 7-8000 standing fans the whole ground would be transformed. Everybody needs to get behind this as football is declining, the only way Glick can get people in is freezing ST prices and giving tickets away, if he didn't have these policies our ground would be like Boro or Coventry. Apart from the top few clubs and those who are temporarily doing well attendances are down everywhere and will continue to do so. Expect opposition from these big clubs with national fan bases they don't want to lose any of the £40 min per match they charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I think the 10,000 is more likely to be 7-8000. Imagine though if the North Stand was filled every week with 7-8000 standing fans the whole ground would be transformed. Everybody needs to get behind this as football is declining, the only way Glick can get people in is freezing ST prices and giving tickets away, if he didn't have these policies our ground would be like Forest, Boro or Coventry. Apart from the top few clubs and those who are temporarily doing well attendances are down everywhere and will continue to do so. Expect opposition from these big clubs with national fan bases they don't want to lose any of the £40 min per match they charge. fixed that for you.... 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelScum Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 It is not a return of terraces. It is "safe standing" This is why it will become a problem, alot of fans seem to think that its the old terrace that is coming back like Peterborough, this is not the case. This is also why I am very keen to bring the safe standing roadshow to Derby to supporters can be educated and see it for themselves. May I suggest googling safe standing or checking out the Football Supporters Federation website. Plenty of links and some great information. One crucial thing here is that it is "safe" Hope your daughter is okay after her injury on saturday? Yeh, shes fine thanks mate. Had a look at the site, didn't realise that was what it was all about. I would welcome a return to standing and will support it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Went for a pee at boro and on my return I tripped up a lil step, straight into a fit blonde... Bring back terracing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I felt pretty safe on saturday, and there were plenty of seats available for those who wanted them. I also managed about 15 years on the Ozzie End without hurting myself, it wasn't the terraces that were unsafe it was the fences they put up in front to keep the fans off the pitch. But why did they put the fences up? Because of the ****** that inhabited certain parts of the terracing. I would not want to see terracing return to this country for football - the moronic half wits would soon spoil it for everyone else, not just in the stadium, but there would be a possibility of it spilling out into the surrounding area. I love football too much for us to take the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therams69 Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 But why did they put the fences up? Because of the ****** that inhabited certain parts of the terracing. I would not want to see terracing return to this country for football - the moronic half wits would soon spoil it for everyone else, not just in the stadium, but there would be a possibility of it spilling out into the surrounding area. I love football too much for us to take the chance. It would not be terracing that returns but safe standing, like I previously have said anyone unsure please look on the FSF website or safe standing roadshow website, this will answer some of the points you have raised. In addition the CCTV at stadiums now means that we will not encounter the problems we used to on the old terrace. This CCTV can read a text message, fans are more wise now too. We would not see a return of the idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Ud still go though nicholas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therams69 Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 Ud still go though nicholas Cheeky!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nookiebear Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 "the moronic half wits would soon spoil it for everyone else, not just in the stadium, but there would be a possibility of it spilling out into the surrounding area" what would be spilling into the street??? safe standing?? do you seriously think the moronic halfwits (as you so elegantly put it) not attend football matches while its all seater? the ground is crying out for somewhere people can show a little passion and a standing area will go some way to doing that. it should be cheaper too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 There are plenty of 'moronic halfwits' who go already - and they all seem to sit near me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Regarding the costs of it... A normal plastic seat costs around £60, whilst the Rail Seats (what the Safe Standing campaign seems to be leaning towards) - costs around £80, so they are slightly more expensive. However, they don't break, whilst some clubs have to replace around 100 plastic seats every game (i'd imagine this is the likes of Manchester United, Newcastle United and Arsenal), so i'd guess we have to replace around 40 - I personally have had 3 seats break on me, and i'm as thin as a rake, so it's not down to the increasing number of fat f*cks attending games. Other than that, there is no, or very little additional outlay provided the capacity of the stand remains the same. If we were to adopt a model that increased the capacity significantly, then it would cost a lot more due to the need to increase the number of exits, toilets, increase concourse size. However, this should be looked at AFTER the ruling has been changed and it would then be up to individual clubs to best implement the system based on desire from the fans, and of course money being available. At the moment clubs in the top two tiers don't even have the option to implement such areas, and that's what has to change first. And on the hooligan thing - don't talk such nonsense. Standing doesn't have a bearing on hooliganism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 http://www.bristolcityst.org.uk/pdf/Extra%20revenue%20PDF%20-%20final.pdf For your reading pleasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Been to plenty of music gigs and festivals where a serious accident is a real possibility, with packing many people in to tight spaces. How could safe-standing be more dangerous than that? One rule for football, another for other events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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