sage Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Herbert Chapman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsilks Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Nowhere near with Brian. Clough needed Taylor. Ferguson doesn't need anyone. Ferguson by a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 When he took over at united they were 1 place above the relegation zone, by goal difference alone! Add what he won at Aberdeen to the list. Genius. And certainly the best ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Has millions at his disposal. Enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Has millions at his disposal. Enough said. actually if you look at the net spend he hasn't spent anywhere near what his rivals have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Has millions at his disposal. Enough said. At Aberdeen??? Did he not produce half of the Englanf team too at one point? Best ever, by miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 At Aberdeen??? Did he not produce half of the Englanf team too at one point? Best ever, by miles. You think he's better than Ottmar Hitzfield? Given your from Switzerland you must have an opinion on him? IMO him and Alex Ferguson have made such impacts on their domestic leagues it's unreal.. And they tie 2-2 for the European Cup.. Though AF has been around for about 8 years longer.. I don't think OH gets enough credit for what he's done.. Dortmund were never a fashionable club and he worked miracles there.. Alex Ferguson stepped into a sleeping giant and reaped the rewards of the PL money.. Manchester United took advantage of the likes of Leeds, Blackburn, Arsenal and Liverpool dropping like stones from the early 90s and by the tme 96 came around Manchester United were the biggest club in England with the most money.. The past 15 years has been a case of how many trophies such is the dominanace.. 2 European Cups for a team always at the top IMO isn't great.. If it wasn't for Arsene Wenger, Jose Mourinho and the Arabs at Man City the PL would have simply died.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams71 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I am not sure if anyone has done what fergie has done, which is consistently rebuild a team from scratch and make it successful. The problem with mourinhio and guardiola is they haven't had to constantly rebuild and make success happen over a period of time. People go on about europe, now he had european success with aberdeen and lets be honest, winning the champions league is a damn sight harder than it used to be. It is more like a european super league than the knockout competition it used to be. Mourinhio has had success with different teams but only for a short period of time, fergie has done it consistently for 20 years with manchester united. Bris add cantona to that list, ferdinand at his peak, van nistelroy gary neville was a top class full back at his peak as well, along with countless others. Dont agree about the champions league being harder to win nowadays. surely it was harder to win when it was a straight knockout competition,lose and you're out. none of this group stage where you can lose games and still get through and even win it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Dont agree about the champions league being harder to win nowadays. surely it was harder to win when it was a straight knockout competition,lose and you're out. none of this group stage where you can lose games and still get through and even win it not at all, it has become more like a European super league, where as before you could play champions of significantly weaker leagues and walk through, now you go through a group and then a difficult knock out round. Ferguson has won the champions league twice, what did he win with aberdeen, the european super cup? and he has lost in the final twice as well against one of the best teams in history, so he hasn't done too bad i don't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams71 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 not at all, it has become more like a European super league, where as before you could play champions of significantly weaker leagues and walk through, now you go through a group and then a difficult knock out round. Ferguson has won the champions league twice, what did he win with aberdeen, the european super cup? and he has lost in the final twice as well against one of the best teams in history, so he hasn't done too bad i don't think. im not doubting Ferguson,i just think it was harder to win the European Cup before they revamped it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 im not doubting Ferguson,i just think it was harder to win the European Cup before they revamped it I personally think it's harder now but hey we all have different views 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams71 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I personally think it's harder now but hey we all have different views 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> everyone has different views yr15,like i prefer the Baseball Ground to PPS for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 everyone has different views yr15,like i prefer the Baseball Ground to PPS for example of course and the world would be boring if we all had the same views. 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams71 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 of course and the world would be boring if we all had the same views. 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 not at all, it has become more like a European super league, where as before you could play champions of significantly weaker leagues and walk through, now you go through a group and then a difficult knock out round. Ferguson has won the champions league twice, what did he win with aberdeen, the european super cup? and he has lost in the final twice as well against one of the best teams in history, so he hasn't done too bad i don't think. At Aberdeen he won the league 4 times, 4 fa cups, 1 league cup, 1 UEFA cup and 1 Super Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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