ladyram Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's a new space project happening in the next few years, to send a spacecraft up to study the sun, at a cost of approx a billion euros. Does anybody else think that this is an obscene amount of money wasted when half of Europe is skintsville? Isn't it about time somebody studied the astronomical debt that hangs over everybody and did something about that? And if anyone agrees that this project is a good one, why? What would the benefits be and can spending all that money really be justified? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekkie_ram Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 The cure for cancer is in the Sun, obviously.... Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Still not got my head around Liverpool paying £35m for Andy Carroll yet, not gonna even start with this one... Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Carroll £35m and sun a billion euros. Obviously money well spent. 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' /> Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's plenty of money around Ladyram, its just not shared out very well... Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Not a waste of money at all. Pretty appalling you think it is. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Not a waste of money at all. Pretty appalling you think it is. There's always one joker isn't there? 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /> Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's always one joker isn't there? 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /> Not sure he is a joker. If we don't explore things then we never learn anything- I am sure that a lot of people thought sending Columbus out on his boat was a waste of money- until he bumped into America. If we don't look at things closely and try to understand things better then what is the point of existing? I am sure you would not be saying it was a waste of money if they find a way of harnessing power to use on Earth instead of burning all of our fossil fuels, polluting the planet and contributing to our own extinction. The cancer quip further up may not be so far fetched- pollution is a cause of cancer, therefore clean energy= less pollution= less cancer. If we didn't try to better ourselves and expand our knowledge we would still be living caves and resembling your average forest fan! Besides, The Euro has cost Europe far more than that and it looks like continuing- now that it a waste a money. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smyth_18 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Surely there's more important things to sort out before they do these things. Whatever happened to a good old priority list. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Obviously this is the new Daily Mail thread. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 There should be a priority list- get rid of the Euro, get the population boom sorted out, get aids under control, cure cancer, find renewable energy, save the panda, plant biofuels, end deforestation, help developing countries on to their feet, fight world hunger, improve human rights, stop child labour, end terrorism, tackle obesity, get the economy back on track, end global warming etc etc etc. Unfortunately many of these noble aims are at odds with one another and therefore can never be solved- most of the worlds problems stem from the fact there are just too many of us and we are getting more numerous all of the time. If we don't push the boundaries and look for answers the human race will implode- still, we could just ignore it all and moan about us wasting money that we could spend bailing other countries out of a situation that was inevitable the minute they ditched the drachma Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Not sure he is a joker. If we don't explore things then we never learn anything- I am sure that a lot of people thought sending Columbus out on his boat was a waste of money- until he bumped into America. . Some wish that he had missed bumping 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /> Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 yes, especially the native Americans I should wager! Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 yes, especially the native Americans I should wager! Who are supposedly Asian Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Not sure he is a joker. If we don't explore things then we never learn anything- I am sure that a lot of people thought sending Columbus out on his boat was a waste of money- until he bumped into America. If we don't look at things closely and try to understand things better then what is the point of existing? I am sure you would not be saying it was a waste of money if they find a way of harnessing power to use on Earth instead of burning all of our fossil fuels, polluting the planet and contributing to our own extinction. The cancer quip further up may not be so far fetched- pollution is a cause of cancer, therefore clean energy= less pollution= less cancer. If we didn't try to better ourselves and expand our knowledge we would still be living caves and resembling your average forest fan! Besides, The Euro has cost Europe far more than that and it looks like continuing- now that it a waste a money. Whoooaa - That's not what I meant. All I meant was maybe now's not the right time to spend mind boggling amounts of money when Europe is in the grip of a massive resession, tis all. Maybe wait until the debt's gone down a bit. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Whoooaa - That's not what I meant. All I meant was maybe now's not the right time to spend mind boggling amounts of money when Europe is in the grip of a massive resession, tis all. Maybe wait until the debt's gone down a bit. So are there other things you'd want to cut all funding from until then, or just science? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 The Euro,the flucking Euro, how come, (Ihave not looked for a few days ), but one day last week, with all the bweeding trouble it is in, the flucking Euro ROSE in value against Sterling, explain that to me someone. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Because other countries in the Euro are bound to help out others so the value won't drop. Besides, everyone hates us so they are probably ganging up! 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':huh:' /> Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 This mission will find out a lot, however it will not solve any of our current problems. Science is the most important idea we have but this voyage is a lot of money for what it is in an economic climate which is hemorrhaging money and when there is no solution. This mission will not find a new biofuel, cure cancer or any other physical occurrence which will solve our problems, the human race is destined to extinction anyway. Is it interesting, yes, is it the most important thing at the moment, no. Although a billion euro's in the big scheme of things is pittance it could be put to better uses for us at the moment. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 This mission will find out a lot, however it will not solve any of our current problems. Science is the most important idea we have but this voyage is a lot of money for what it is in an economic climate which is hemorrhaging money and when there is no solution. This mission will not find a new biofuel, cure cancer or any other physical occurrence which will solve our problems, the human race is destined to extinction anyway. Is it interesting, yes, is it the most important thing at the moment, no. Although a billion euro's in the big scheme of things is pittance it could be put to better uses for us at the moment. That's what I meant, well said YR. Perhaps I didn't make it clear enough in my original post, so apologies for that. In answer to Martyn about cuts in funding. I think we shouldn't give as much money in foreign aid when it's needed here. Hospitals, schools, the NHS, fire service etc are all being squeezed and they could all do with tons more money. I'm not saying the aid which goes overseas should be stopped altogether - it's only right to help less fortunate people, of course it is - but must we give quite so much? Shouldn't charity begin at home sometimes? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/7669-what-a-waste-of-money-europe/#findComment-210735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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