Jonny Metgod help me understand football.

[blackNwhites]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/9418733.stm

I'm glad he's come back to do the post match interviews. I like Nigel as well, both help, but Metgod goes to extremes to explain tactics etc..

Excellent interview.

[Ramalama]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/9418733.stm

I'm glad he's come back to do the post match interviews. I like Nigel as well, both help, but Metgod goes to extremes to explain tactics etc..

Excellent interview.

Sarcasm, yeah?

[ramblur]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/9418733.stm

I'm glad he's come back to do the post match interviews. I like Nigel as well, both help, but Metgod goes to extremes to explain tactics etc..

Excellent interview.

Might agree if I could hear it,even with full volume.Can never make out what Nigel's saying in post match interviews,though I hear Gibbo well enough.I know my hearing's not brilliant any more,but I can hear other RD stuff clearly enough,so it must be a technical matter with recording levels.Very frustrating.

[Roofio]

Might agree if I could hear it,even with full volume.Can never make out what Nigel's saying in post match interviews,though I hear Gibbo well enough.I know my hearing's not brilliant any more,but I can hear other RD stuff clearly enough,so it must be a technical matter with recording levels.Very frustrating.

Or him not holiding the microphone close enough to his mouth.

[ramblur]

Or him not holiding the microphone close enough to his mouth.

I always thought it was the interviewer who held the mike.

[Roofio]

I always thought it was the interviewer who held the mike.

That's what I meant. Colin is probably saving us.

[Ramalama]

Might agree if I could hear it,even with full volume.Can never make out what Nigel's saying in post match interviews,though I hear Gibbo well enough.I know my hearing's not brilliant any more,but I can hear other RD stuff clearly enough,so it must be a technical matter with recording levels.Very frustrating.

I'll summarise it for you, they've got better players than us, we stopped them playing, hassled them up the pitch and booted the ball into the corners.

It worked this time, but it's hardly tactical genius.

[blackNwhites]

No sarcasm.

Don't know why you're complaining about the sound Ramblur, all i did was turn the volume up?

It's just a more positive interview in comparison to recent previous interviews. How he spoke of limiting them to long balls to the short guys, defending from the front.

Metgod just helps me to understand things better, even when something is clear, Metgod explains at length why they do that and it is appreciated, from me at least. Ramalama obviously hates this sort of thing, probably should be running the show himself?

[Ramalama]

No sarcasm.

Don't know why you're complaining about the sound Ramblur, all i did was turn the volume up?

It's just a more positive interview in comparison to recent previous interviews. How he spoke of limiting them to long balls to the short guys, defending from the front.

Metgod just helps me to understand things better, even when something is clear, Metgod explains at length why they do that and it is appreciated, from me at least. Ramalama obviously hates this sort of thing, probably should be running the show himself?

I don't hate it, although I do find after match interviews fairly pointless, I'm just saying the interview offered no 'in depth' knowledge or tactics, the two main points were, (1) we worked hard to stop them (backed up by Steve Davies' post match comments), and (2) We booted the ball into the corners 'better'.

Point (1), we should be doing every week, it's not a 'tactic' it's what needs to happen in every game, and not doing it for the last 18 games is the reason why we've been so poor. Steve Davies' comments are a bit of a piss take IMO, if you can't put in a full shift in every game then you shouldn't be playing at this level.

Point (2) we shouldn't even be doing this, we should be working off the ball when we have posession to give the player on the ball options, which would enable us to keep the ball like Leicester did at the end of both halves at PPS.

and finally;

If this is the level of coaching in place, then yes, I would be able to coach the team better, although there are a lot more things to consider, I don't think (for instance) that I'd be able to man manage Stephen Pearson or Robbie Savage, because I'd be inclined to whack them round the head with a cricket bat rather than put up with their gutless performances week in week out.

[ramblur]

No sarcasm.

Don't know why you're complaining about the sound Ramblur, all i did was turn the volume up?

Thought my first sentence covered that,bNw.Either I'm deafer than I thought,or there's a volume level greater than 11,which I can't seem to be able to activate?

[sage]

For the record Ramalama, how much coaching have you done?

[blackNwhites]

Thought my first sentence covered that,bNw.Either I'm deafer than I thought,or there's a volume level greater than 11,which I can't seem to be able to activate?

Oops. My excuse is the headache i have.

[Ramalama]

For the record Ramalama, how much coaching have you done?

I've managed teams at a low league level, I did say that there is a lot more to it and basing my comments purely on the interview, I'm sure that the level of coaching involves more than just telling them to boot it into the corners.

At least I hope it does.

[blackNwhites]

I don't hate it, although I do find after match interviews fairly pointless, I'm just saying the interview offered no 'in depth' knowledge or tactics, the two main points were, (1) we worked hard to stop them (backed up by Steve Davies' post match comments), and (2) We booted the ball into the corners 'better'.

Point (1), we should be doing every week, it's not a 'tactic' it's what needs to happen in every game, and not doing it for the last 18 games is the reason why we've been so poor. Steve Davies' comments are a bit of a piss take IMO, if you can't put in a full shift in every game then you shouldn't be playing at this level.

Point (2) we shouldn't even be doing this, we should be working off the ball when we have posession to give the player on the ball options, which would enable us to keep the ball like Leicester did at the end of both halves at PPS.

and finally;

If this is the level of coaching in place, then yes, I would be able to coach the team better, although there are a lot more things to consider, I don't think (for instance) that I'd be able to man manage Stephen Pearson or Robbie Savage, because I'd be inclined to whack them round the head with a cricket bat rather than put up with their gutless performances week in week out.

Why do you listen to them if you think they are pointless?

I'm not sure i can take you seriously unless you have your coaching badge and bags of footballing experience in the top tiers.

I think Metgod explains in depth what we were and have been trying to do all season, it wasn't a one off thing. Although the change to a 4:2:3:1 was pretty good for playing against the likes of Swansea.

I'm not just talking about this interview, i'm talking about all of the interviews he's done. The Radio Derby interview for this game was better, he went even further in depth.

But, like i say, i'm not sure i can take you seriously.

[blackNwhites]

I've managed teams at a low league level, I did say that there is a lot more to it and basing my comments purely on the interview, I'm sure that the level of coaching involves more than just telling them to boot it into the corners.

At least I hope it does.

Now, i know what kind of background you have.

OK, for the simpletons like me who have a bit of experience of playing football for the Cub Scouts team and warming benches, it's nice to have someone like Metgod going into depth about why they did this, that and the other.

It changes from game to game anyway, you can't treat each and every team the same way surely.

Whilst you know better than Clough and Metgod, i don't, and i appreciate Metgods depth. I can't recall other Derby managers/coaching staff doing the same.

[sage]

The booting it into the corners thing, is purely where you put a clearance. If a player has time and players are available NC will want them to pass it away.

It's hard for the opposition to score from a throw in ten yards from their own byline.

[blackNwhites]

The booting it into the corners thing, is purely where you put a clearance. If a player has time and players are available NC will want them to pass it away.

It's hard for the opposition to score from a throw in ten yards from their own byline.

It was limiting the opposition to aiming long balls at short pacey wingers i found interesting.

I know about the long ball stuff, i've heard Clough bollocking people for not doing it before. Which i thought Conor Doyle was doing well yesterday.

[sage]

Pressing high up the pitch isn't as easy as it looks. It has to be co-ordinated or it all goes tits up, like Leicester's second goal in the recent home game.

It's easier when there is pace throughout the team. Only a couple of slow players like Addison and it just won't work.

[Ramalama]

OK, maybe my post came accross a bit harsh, what I'm saying is that these are basics of football even at a low league level, you need to be fit enough and motivated to put that kind of performance in every week if you want to be successful. It's the diference between how we played in our good spell and how we have played for the last 18 games.

Even if your players are not as good technically as the other teams, you can beat them by being fitter, more organised, every player taking responsibility for his own performance, winning the personal battles.

Although it's usually the better players that realise the need to put in this level of commitment consistently.

Getting 11 individuals to put in this commitment is very difficult, you have to work on the team as individuals and as a group, but it's all about gaining trust and reinforcing all the positives in their performances.

I'm not qualified to manage at that level obviously, but I know enough to comment on the basis of Metgod's interview, and not afraid to say so if I don't agree with some of the comments.

[Ramalama]

The booting it into the corners thing, is purely where you put a clearance. If a player has time and players are available NC will want them to pass it away.

It's hard for the opposition to score from a throw in ten yards from their own byline.

But it's impossible for them to score if you're passing it around, unless your name's Williams.