Jayram Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 From DET website: Clough has defended the work in the transfer window of chief executive Tom Glick and Mal Brannigan, who is vice-president, finance. "When you lose Kris Commons in the transfer window and we don't bring a player in, it (reaction of the fans) is inevitable," said Clough. "But all I will say is that Tom Glick and Mal Brannigan could not have worked any harder, like us all, to try to get players in during the window and we just couldn't manage it." 'We just couldn't manage it?' What a pathetic statement, a real indicator of how **** we are under GSE in my view. It is clear Nigel is the boards puppet and broadly agrees with the direction they are taking the club in, so as far as I'm concerned he is as much a part of the problem as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clean shirt Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 "But all I will say is that Tom Glick and Mal Brannigan could not have worked any harder, like us all, to try to get players in during the window and we just couldn't manage it." hahaha, what a joke. its there job, its what they milk this club for. i could have told them (well we all could) commons was going along time ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inglorious01 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Clough can't say anything against the board. If he loses his job, who would employ him? His record is appalling and his stock as a manager has never been lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh dragon Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Clough can't say anything against the board. If he loses his job, who would employ him? His record is appalling and his stock as a manager has never been lower. This is why he should go now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Let's just say and I know it might sound crazy but.....what if he's telling the truth. Yes we are all angry/frustrated but we have no evidence to suggest Nigel is lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 What is he supposed to say then? If people don't want to sell then they aren't going to sell unless you pay over the odds. I am as unhappy as the next person about our dealings, or lack of, during this window, but if we sign 2 strikers, 1 with the ability to hold the ball up and pass it and win headers, and a striker with a bit of pace, I will be content until the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 From DET website: Clough has defended the work in the transfer window of chief executive Tom Glick and Mal Brannigan, who is vice-president, finance. "When you lose Kris Commons in the transfer window and we don't bring a player in, it (reaction of the fans) is inevitable," said Clough. "But all I will say is that Tom Glick and Mal Brannigan could not have worked any harder, like us all, to try to get players in during the window and we just couldn't manage it." 'We just couldn't manage it?' What a pathetic statement, a real indicator of how **** we are under GSE in my view. It is clear Nigel is the boards puppet and broadly agrees with the direction they are taking the club in, so as far as I'm concerned he is as much a part of the problem as they are. the only pathetic statement is yours...what is Nigel supposed to do? He doesn't have to come out and say anything, but he has, because he knows all the pathetic moaning and groaning from people like you will only increase if he doesn't. Like someone has already put, maybe, just maybe, he is telling the truth, that they did try everythign they could to get new signings in but just couldn't manage it. How about we let them get on with their jobs, the board and Nigel, and we just do our job, and back the team. The boards aren't going to go, the pathetic demonstration last night wont change a thing, so forget it and actually get behind the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footymadme Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 From DET website: Clough has defended the work in the transfer window of chief executive Tom Glick and Mal Brannigan, who is vice-president, finance. "When you lose Kris Commons in the transfer window and we don't bring a player in, it (reaction of the fans) is inevitable," said Clough. "But all I will say is that Tom Glick and Mal Brannigan could not have worked any harder, like us all, to try to get players in during the window and we just couldn't manage it." 'We just couldn't manage it?' What a pathetic statement, a real indicator of how **** we are under GSE in my view. It is clear Nigel is the boards puppet and broadly agrees with the direction they are taking the club in, so as far as I'm concerned he is as much a part of the problem as they are. remove the bad language please..................................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scropton ram Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 "But all I will say is that Tom Glick and Mal Brannigan could not have worked any harder, like us all, to try to get players in during the window and we just couldn't manage it." Just not good enough!! After 50yrs in the construction industry I have employed men that genuinly worked hard, but produced very little at the end of the day, conversly someone who never broke sweat, and took things in his stride could usually turn out a load of work for you. So I think it's time someone else had a crack at it... judging by the transfers made by other clubs it seems some have mastered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigZ Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Have to say, Jayram, I found this statement a shocker when I read it this morning too. If everyone really was trying as hard as they could to recruit in the window, it's time different people were given the task. Interestingly, we never seem to struggle to offload in the window, do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 The club will have made a list of targets, if clubs don't want to sell/loan or players choose to go elsewhere what do you want Glick/Clough to do....panic buy on players like Luke Varney for £1m just to shut the fans up? We don't know how many players they were interested in so there may well have been a Plan A, B, C, D, E, F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigZ Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'm sure every club is in the same boat every window. This was a crucial one for us and I think we're in greater danger of relegation this season than the last two, despite a much better start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigZ Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 And how about just a really strong Plan A having identified a target, rather than resorting to Plan Z? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'm sure every club is in the same boat every window. Of course they are but each club will have it's own targets and financial resources to sign those players. The players Nigel identified were not available or chose to go elsewhere. Until I see any actual evidence that suggests otherwise and that Glick was actually out playing Golf with his mates for the last month then I can't question them, all this spin that spin this is actually turning me more towards GSE. I'm just as frustrated as anyone else that we have sold Moxey and not replaced Hulse, frustration doesn't give me any greater knowledge of what's going on behind closed doors to call GSE liars and spin merchants. Personally I feel it's come to the point where Nigel simply cannot find anymore young players that he feels can make the step up, I think GSE are trying to do the best for the club by not spending within our means but it's come to the point now where other clubs like QPR, Cardiff, Leicester, Forest are pumping money in and we're getting left behind. If they do have ambitions of taking us up they need to ask the investors for a small cash injection for that marquee signing up front which will give the club 15-20 goals a season and a much needed lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayram Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 remove the bad language please..................................................... My apologies. I thought the F word would be automatically edited as it usually is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigZ Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I agree with much of this, Daveo. I'm not calling GSE liars in this case - just pointing out a couple of things this latest failure in the transfer market has highlighted: 1. If everyone ISN'T trying their hardest, it's clearly not good enough. And if everyone IS trying their hardest, it's clearly not good enough. Personally I believe the reason we didn't sign our main target, Sammons, was due yet again to a lack of financial aggression. I'm sure you'd find his ambition to play in the Premiership could have waited a year or two if he'd been offered a deal he couldn't refuse. This, for me, then raises this question: 2. Does GSE believe in Clough's judgement? If so, give him the means to sign his primary targets. If not, why employ him? His patience and willingness to toe the line is on the one hand admirable but on the other could be damaging to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I think we seem to be completely lacking a decent scouting system. We appear to have been constantly chasing three or four targets for the last month, there should have been a good list of players to go for by now, it's been 6 months or so since Hulse left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I agree with much of this, Daveo. I'm not calling GSE liars in this case - just pointing out a couple of things this latest failure in the transfer market has highlighted: I wasn't calling you out, it's built up frustration in general about the spin this spin that posts on this forum over the last month. It's come to the point where I think people have become that angry or frustrated they just scream spin as soon as Glick opens his mouth without stopping to think...hold on he may actually be telling the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayram Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 The club will have made a list of targets, if clubs don't want to sell/loan or players choose to go elsewhere what do you want Glick/Clough to do....panic buy on players like Luke Varney for £1m just to shut the fans up? We don't know how many players they were interested in so there may well have been a Plan A, B, C, D, E, F Well, it was four wasn't it? And we missed out on three of them. And because we spent so much time trying to sign those three, when we didn't get them we didn't have any Plan B to fall back on did we? I may not know the ins and outs of what happens in the transfer window but its pretty clear there was no fallback position. If there were other targets apart from the three then surely we would have signed at least someone else? Or are you suggesting that we missed out on every single player that we had an interest in? If so, that would be a pretty pathetic state of affairs. No I don't want panic buys, but neither do I want yet another collection of short term loans, lower league journeymen and cheapjack signings from the Blue Square Premier, because the lot we've got so far are taking us into a relegation battle. What I would like is for Nigel to expand his scouting network beyond a 50 mile radius of Derby, and for this board to actually understand that their days are numbered if they don't start putting some serious money into the playing side of things. I won't hold my breath on that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 No I don't want panic buys, but neither do I want yet another collection of short term loans, lower league journeymen and cheapjack signings from the Blue Square Premier, because the lot we got so far are taking us into a relegation battle. If you are unhappy about the signings then why is it not Clough's head you are calling for instead of GSE, I mean I could be wrong but I get the impression that Glick is just the businessman at the top that will try and sign the players that Nigel suggests. Look back and you will see GSE have actually funded quite a few signings under both Jewell and Clough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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