Curtains Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Loads slagged Hulse and now Commons off . Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 yes it is. I didn't slag off Hulse but I slagged Commons off due to the nature of his departure Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 He said he wanted to stay and that he liked the club, we had a talented bunch of players etc and then for 6 weeks basically sat in contract meetings with his fingers in his ears going "la la la" until an offer was tabled elsewhere and his plane booked Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_ram Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 yes it is. I didn't slag off Hulse but I slagged Commons off due to the nature of his departure You can't back up your reasons for being annoyed at his departure, so i'll give you an example. Ok, imagine your Kris Commons and think 30/40 years into the future. Your grandchildren know you were a professional footballer and being related to you are of a Scottish heritage also. They then go on to ask you what clubs you played for. You tell them, Stoke City, Nottingham Forest, Derby County & Glasgow Celtic. (9 times out of 10, having no doubt being raised in Scotland they will know who Glasgow Celtic are, yes? But it is highly likely they won't know the rest. To Scottish people Glasgow Celtic along with Glasgow Rangers are huge teams, every Scottish footballer wants to play for them.) Your grandchildren then proceed to ask you what made you join such a prestigious team. You tell them that at the time, Derby County were going backwards, with no ambition and that you had worked your socks off all season and they still couldn't offer you the contract you felt you were worth. You then say how Glasgow Celtic came in and offered you the contract you wanted & a chance to play for their team on a regular basis with a shot at European football - something you wouldn't get at Derby County. Finally you tell them how it was to good an opportunity to turn down and you grasped it with both hands. Do you understand why he moved now? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 why did Commons join Derby in the first place? Nuff said. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 He said he wanted to stay here. He asked for a certain wage. After negotiations we matched what he wanted. He still declined to sign a new contract. Not the dealings of a trustworthy man. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_ram Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 why did Commons join Derby in the first place? Nuff said. Stepping stones. He knows he won't get a shot at the Premier League as he will only be a fringe player if he does. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Who said we'd matched his exact demands? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyinred Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Hi i am a red but come in peace. Kris Commons left us in very similar circumstance despite declaring his love for his boyhood team and how it had always been his dream to play for us! What a load of bullshit, Kris Commons has no loyalty to anyone, it is all about money. Celtic is just next on his hit list!!!!! Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Red dogs fail to understand that Forest never offered Kris any deal. Anyway, where was we? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_ram Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 He said he wanted to stay here. He asked for a certain wage. After negotiations we matched what he wanted. He still declined to sign a new contract. Not the dealings of a trustworthy man. Build a bridge and get over it. There's little you can say or do to change it, it happened and we should all wish him well. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayram Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 why did Commons join Derby in the first place? Nuff said. I would imagine that apart from being given a good contract it was because he thought he was joining a club that were going to shake off the disappointment of relegation and push on based on the promises made by the board at the time. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I would imagine that apart from being given a good contract it was because he thought he was joining a club that were going to shake off the disappointment of relegation and push on based on the promises made by the board at the time. And my ***** a bloater! wum. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 You can't back up your reasons for being annoyed at his departure, so i'll give you an example. Ok, imagine your Kris Commons and think 30/40 years into the future. Your grandchildren know you were a professional footballer and being related to you are of a Scottish heritage also. They then go on to ask you what clubs you played for. You tell them, Stoke City, Nottingham Forest, Derby County & Glasgow Celtic. (9 times out of 10, having no doubt being raised in Scotland they will know who Glasgow Celtic are, yes? But it is highly likely they won't know the rest. To Scottish people Glasgow Celtic along with Glasgow Rangers are huge teams, every Scottish footballer wants to play for them.) Your grandchildren then proceed to ask you what made you join such a prestigious team. You tell them that at the time, Derby County were going backwards, with no ambition and that you had worked your socks off all season and they still couldn't offer you the contract you felt you were worth. You then say how Glasgow Celtic came in and offered you the contract you wanted & a chance to play for their team on a regular basis with a shot at European football - something you wouldn't get at Derby County. Finally you tell them how it was to good an opportunity to turn down and you grasped it with both hands. Do you understand why he moved now? So he has gone to play in al eague which is p*ss poor because he is scottish (really? Come on) and because he is worried about what his kids will think in 30 years? Oh, and a few quid extra....I think we can dismiss the first 2 can't we? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteDerby Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Hi i am a red but come in peace. Kris Commons left us in very similar circumstance despite declaring his love for his boyhood team and how it had always been his dream to play for us! What a load of bullshit, Kris Commons has no loyalty to anyone, it is all about money. Celtic is just next on his hit list!!!!! Well I'll be civil to you even if some of the inbreds in our fanbase can't:) Kissing the shirt and declaring undying love for the club is a bit of an in-joke with footballers. Some mean it, but some laugh about it in the dressing room because of how fans swallow it up. And yes, I remember when he signed from you lot, many came on the old DET forum saying he'll hardly play (which he didn't until Nigel got him sorted) and that he'd end up leaving us for a 'golden hello' payment somewhere else at the end of his contract. They were pretty much right. I am disapointed to see him go, because we've nobody of his kind of quality left - and unlikely to sign anyone like that for many years to come. However, he's gone, so I wish people would just take a 'thanks for the good times' attitude and move on. So what's the talk in Nottingham about this Tyson rumour? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 What Tyson rumour? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 yes thanks kris for 1 good season and a couple of seasons on the treatment table.you obviously dont know any loyalty ie leaving fo**st for us,so why be suprised to see you go to celtic.not me.ta ta Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramalama Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 The interesting thing about all this is that he was prepared to join Rangers on the same money as we were offering. Face it, we aren't much of an atttraction with these clowns in charge of us. We can't even attract kuqi, a player who's been released by Swansea, even though most fans here would welcome him with open arms. What's going on with the idots in charge here, we look more and more ameaturish every week? This bloody club has been like watching a car crash for the last 3 years. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 A car crash whilst simultaneously avoiding relegation and recovering from a significant amount of millions in debt. Damn GSE for all of their mis-management! Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakram Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I agree we cant blame Commons, most players have ambitions and these dont look likely to be met at Derby in the near future so he would probably miss the boat. The past few weeks of underachieving probably made his mind up, OK he lost his form himself in this period but I do think that was partly due to him being shifted back out to the left wing where he has never enjoyed much success at Derby in his time here (seems to prefer the free role). Nowadays theres hardly any loyalty in football from any of the half decent players, the journeymen types are the one who are happy to stay obviously as not many other clubs would want them in all probability! Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/5259-isnt-it-funny-when-our-best-players-leave/#findComment-126492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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