taggy180 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 After watching the first 5 games and watching nml especially is captaincy affecting his performances. The catalyst for so many good moments last season or is it the step up in class/ plus playing on the left which i don't think suits him cutting in. I would love to know fellow rams views on this subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) No, I reckon what is affecting his form is being overworked in training. I don't have proof of that and I could well be wrong, but I just don't see how double sessions of training would benefit an ageing player who is supposed to be all action in games. I was thinking tonight on my way home, not only are we needing players anyway, we have lost NML that we are all used to, he currently offers very little. And I don't think it's his fault. Edited August 28 by MackworthRamIsGod Adslegend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 How about not being played in his best position? Ted McMinn Football Genius and DCFC Kicks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 10 minutes ago, taggy180 said: After watching the first 5 games and watching nml especially is captaincy affecting his performances. The catalyst for so many good moments last season or is it the step up in class/ plus playing on the left which i don't think suits him cutting in. I would love to know fellow rams views on this subject He's always a bit 'streaky'...looks shattered and/or like he's carrying the world on his shoulders. Then bursts into life and looks very lively and dangerous. His first touch is often poor but on his day his power and pace compensate for that. He's had very little opportunity on the break when he's had time to 'stand people up' and is being relied on to produce when he's being rushed and only rarely, whilst also expected to be chasing back the rest of the game. Kinda reminds me of Raheem Sterling in that he can look unplayable and then clumsy as anything within seconds. Doubt the captaincy is much to do with his current poor run, more a case of having less of the ball, less time and better opposition. Edited August 28 by Chester40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taggy180 Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: How about not being played in his best position? He's deffo rw, take the man on and cross, not the same when cutting in RoyMac5 and r_wilcockson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Not sure to be honest. He cut inside and had a good shot last night but turned down two (better?) chances to do so when there seemed to be more space. I think he's the wrong choice for captain but then I'm not a fan of forwards being captains. I would rather Nelson was captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 6 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: How about not being played in his best position? And that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, MackworthRamIsGod said: And that See above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajstrawb Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) Nothing against NML at all, but could the glaringly obvious thing here be (bar last night) is he’s playing against better, fitter players. Has he ever ‘done it’ at Championship level? Edited August 28 by dajstrawb i-Ram, r_wilcockson and SparxTheRam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 15 minutes ago, Chester40 said: He's always a bit 'streaky'...looks shattered and/or like he's carrying the world on his shoulders. This. He's been in and out of extended periods of form since he's arrived. And as @dajstrawb suggests, it's unrealistic to expect him to perform as he did last season against much better teams and players. We absolutely need his level of player for where we're at now. But I don't think he'll ever be a top-end Championship player with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 We’re a hell of a lot deeper than last season so it’s not a case of him getting the ball in their half and running at them. When we win the ball back this season he’s receiving it well inside his own half. angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 26 minutes ago, taggy180 said: After watching the first 5 games and watching nml especially is captaincy affecting his performances. The catalyst for so many good moments last season or is it the step up in class/ plus playing on the left which i don't think suits him cutting in. I would love to know fellow rams views on this subject No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Absolutely. He’s been crap since he got the captaincy last season. Can’t remember him having a good game since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 31 minutes ago, taggy180 said: After watching the first 5 games and watching nml especially is captaincy affecting his performances. The catalyst for so many good moments last season or is it the step up in class/ plus playing on the left which i don't think suits him cutting in. I would love to know fellow rams views on this subject Simple answer is no: he’s up against a better standard of defender and they’re making him work harder for any success. He’s a flat trak bully in League One, it’s negligent to think he would have the same impact at a higher level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Perhaps there are good reasons why he joined a league 1 side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamInSweden Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 36 minutes ago, taggy180 said: After watching the first 5 games and watching nml especially is captaincy affecting his performances. The catalyst for so many good moments last season or is it the step up in class/ plus playing on the left which i don't think suits him cutting in. I would love to know fellow rams views on this subject Better defenders, getting older, being arrested maybe something to do with it? Don’t think being on the left is a problem. He played at his best and scored most of his goals last season on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodleyRam Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 20 minutes ago, dajstrawb said: Nothing against NML at all, but could the glaringly obvious thing here be (bar last night) is he’s playing against better, fitter players. Has he ever ‘done it’ at Championship level? This was going to be my point. I don't think making a player like NML captain is a great choice personally. I'd sooner he focused on contributing, finding his own form and creating, than having the added pressure of carrying a struggling side as leader too. Think there are people better suited to captaincy, which in turn would help NML I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Osborn seemed an obvious choice for captaincy. Understandably he wasn't chosen, with Warney being aware that he's going to miss a lot of games due to pre existing injury situation. I wouldn't have opted for NML as captain, but presumably the manager knows his players very well..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) Mendez Laing found his level in the last 2 seasons. He has never been a stand out Championship player. I think he might have had one streaky hot 6 month period for Cardiff about 6 years ago. He doesn’t start for me, let alone captain the team, but he might occasionally be useful off the bench, in the final 20 minutes of a game, on the right wing, if we are needing to chase a goal. Edited August 28 by i-Ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser_23 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Captaincy in league one didn’t stop him getting a nomination for league one team of the year and 28 G/A. Silly thread, nothing to do with the armband he wears Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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