Premier League | 2024/25

[David]

4 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said:

The hate towards City is born out of jealousy of their success.

It’s funny that United went through the exact same thing. 

It’s not success, it’s the way they have gone about their business. I have the same dislike for Chelsea despite the lack of any recent success.

[Bris Vegas]

3 hours ago, David said:

It’s not success, it’s the way they have gone about their business. I have the same dislike for Chelsea despite the lack of any recent success.

The rise of Man City and Chelsea has helped create what is the PL today.

Without them, Man Utd would have turned the PL into the Bundesliga IMO.

Not sure if that would have been preferible? 

Either way, my personal interest in the PL and football in general is almost non-existant now.

It feels like Messi winning the WC and Man City doing the treble closed the chapter, especially for my generation. 

I’ll chime in every now and then, but I think it’s going to take something pretty special from Derby to pull me back in.

 

[David]

4 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

The rise of Man City and Chelsea has helped create what is the PL today.

Without them, Man Utd would have turned the PL into the Bundesliga IMO.

Not sure if that would have been preferible? 

Either way, my personal interest in the PL and football in general is almost non-existant now.

It feels like Messi winning the WC and Man City doing the treble closed the chapter, especially for my generation. 

I’ll chime in every now and then, but I think it’s going to take something pretty special from Derby to pull me back in.

 

Man United back in the day, despite largely disliked, I didn’t have any problem with their domination.

In fact my childhood was Derby Saturday and Champions League nights on a Wednesday, ITV, free to watch. Games against Juventus, Bayern, Barcelona. The days where it didn’t cost £100 to watch football a month on TV.

The Neville’s, Butt, Scholes, Giggs, Beckham brought through the academy playing such important roles in a successful team under the greatest manager of all time in my era.

Sure they have spent money, a lot of money, but not like City and Chelsea have, I don’t see what’s to like about that, especially as a fan of a second tier club fan that has seen the rules change and younger players robbed for absolute pennies outside of the PL. 

Players that struggle to break through those teams.

How is Cole Palmer, a Manchester lad, through the City academy now at Chelsea. How could Pep not see his talent?

Chelsea, to think they had Salah, De Bruyne is insane to me. Selling Salah for less than they bought him for playing just 21 games in two seasons.

At least they made a profit on De Bruyne but still, just 12 games.

I refuse to believe they had nothing to show worthy of giving a chance.

For both of these clubs it’s just buy buy buy when they have players under their noses.

Makes you wonder if City have a DM under their roof that can come in and help sort their issues out, not a Rodri like for like replacement, but someone that can come in and offer something more to the role.

But nah, they will probably go blow a minimum £50m in January.

I hate what the PL has become, despite wanting Derby to be back up there as that’s where the best are, and this relationship I have with the club will remain until the day I die, as the song goes.

My dream would be to see Derby replicate what Man United achieved. Not Man City who let’s not forget are still under investigation for their business over previous seasons which led to their success.

[David]

He’s either got into a scuffle in the dressing room or needs help having claimed it’s self harm. Something not right here.

[David]

Leicester set to appoint Ruud van Nistelrooy as manager

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13260918/ruud-van-nistelrooy-leicester-city-set-to-appoint-former-manchester-united-interim-head-coach

[Wolfie20]

2 hours ago, David said:

Leicester set to appoint Ruud van Nistelrooy as manager

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13260918/ruud-van-nistelrooy-leicester-city-set-to-appoint-former-manchester-united-interim-head-coach

A brilliant appointment - he'll take them down with a bit of luck.

[Grumpy Git]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/nov/27/manchester-united-raise-member-ticket-prices-remove-concessions

Man Utd have announced new ticket prices with immediate effect.

Previous cheapest adult £40 / child £25 tickts will now be £66 (no concessions).

So a parent and child now have to pay £132 instead of £65.

Welcome to Manchester Mr Moneybags Radcliffe.

Edited Thursday at 23:25 by Grumpy Git

[TigerTedd]

7 hours ago, Grumpy Git said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/nov/27/manchester-united-raise-member-ticket-prices-remove-concessions

Man Utd have announced new ticket prices with immediate effect.

Previous cheapest adult £40 / child £25 tickts will now be £66 (no concessions).

So a parent and child now have to pay £132 instead of £65.

Welcome to Manchester Mr Moneybags Radcliffe.

Shouldn’t this be in the stupid, greedy businesses thread?

[scout's dad]

1 hour ago, TigerTedd said:

Shouldn’t this be in the stupid, greedy businesses thread?

[Will the Ram]

On 28/11/2024 at 23:21, Grumpy Git said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/nov/27/manchester-united-raise-member-ticket-prices-remove-concessions

Man Utd have announced new ticket prices with immediate effect.

Previous cheapest adult £40 / child £25 tickts will now be £66 (no concessions).

So a parent and child now have to pay £132 instead of £65.

Welcome to Manchester Mr Moneybags Radcliffe.

They’re also looking at scrapping the £40K a year they give to the Man Utd Disabled Supporters Association. The arrogance and lack of compassion at the club really knows no bounds it seems.

[David]

Half time??

 

[TigerTedd]

2 hours ago, David said:

Half time??

 

And then no more goals in the second half. A game of two halves. 

[Ramrob]

I see Kluivert’s hat trick of penalties yesterday was the first in the top flight since football was invented in 1992. 

Sure we all remember who the first should’ve been! 

[AndyinLiverpool]

5 minutes ago, Ramrob said:

I see Kluivert’s hat trick of penalties yesterday was the first in the top flight since football was invented in 1992. 

Sure we all remember who the first should’ve been! 

Craig Burley

[Tyler Durden]

On 26/11/2024 at 23:44, Bris Vegas said:

The hate towards City is born out of jealousy of their success.

It’s funny that United went through the exact same thing. 

 

That's such a one eyed view.

Man Utd spent a lot of money but they also had players ,very good players, coming through their academy and cementing first team places.

City and Chelsea hoover up talent to either bench warm or discard after a few months. They also sell on their home grown talent to circumnavigate FFP rules so they can continue this practice.

Just imagine the uproar if Ferguson had sold on Scholes, Butt, Beckham etc after one season. It's a totally separate kettle of fish. 

[TigerTedd]

I feel like villa and city are somehow psychically linked, like Elliott and ET. 

[Premier ram]

Now the title race is sorted, time to concentrate on the relegation fight
 

           

[David]

19 hours ago, TigerTedd said:

I feel like villa and city are somehow psychically linked, like Elliott and ET. 

In Villa’s case, it’s the curse of European football. The additional fixtures, the glamorous mid week games. They don’t have the squad to rotate, are players giving their all at the weekend knowing they have the likes of Bayern, Juventus on Wednesday.

£85 to £95 a ticket for these games where they’ve done alright, most likely make the knock out stages, but the league form is suffering for it. Be surprised if they make Europe again next season.

With Man United under new management and making their way up the table, the likes of Brighton and Brentford in contention with the bi polar Spurs. Just don’t see it.

A mate of mine is a Villa fan, before a ball was kicked I made a £50 bet with him that Villa wouldn’t finish top 6. Could see this happening a mile off. 

[David]

As for Liverpool, they have been gifted a title. Klopp must be gutted he walked away when he did. Next season will be Slot’s biggest test as they are going to have to replace some key players.

Salah, Van Dijk, TAA contracts expiring in the summer. Will any of them stay? 

Salah will be 33 and Van Dijk 34 in the summer, even if they did sign the body clock is ticking. It’s going to break the bank replacing them and extending them. 

[TigerTedd]

7 hours ago, David said:

In Villa’s case, it’s the curse of European football. The additional fixtures, the glamorous mid week games. They don’t have the squad to rotate, are players giving their all at the weekend knowing they have the likes of Bayern, Juventus on Wednesday.

£85 to £95 a ticket for these games where they’ve done alright, most likely make the knock out stages, but the league form is suffering for it. Be surprised if they make Europe again next season.

With Man United under new management and making their way up the table, the likes of Brighton and Brentford in contention with the bi polar Spurs. Just don’t see it.

A mate of mine is a Villa fan, before a ball was kicked I made a £50 bet with him that Villa wouldn’t finish top 6. Could see this happening a mile off. 

Same problem as Newcastle and Leicester had. 

They might sneak into the conference place. Or he’ll, they might even win the champions league (and then I’ll remember our trip to Wembley and sob quietly).