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14 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Near the top, but he's behind Mac1, Rosenior, and Ted Magner. I'm not counting Lowe or Hutchings who managed us for 1 game and won.

To be fair, Magner only managed 11 games, most of which were wartime competitions, and Rosenior 12 games is a limited sample compared to Warne's 106 games (his ppg will almost certainly come down this season of course). If you include Mac's second spell, I think his win % and ppg is just under Warne's?

(Clough, Mackay and Smith mostly managed in the top division of course)

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29 minutes ago, maxjam said:

 

First time we've had a manager getting to his 2nd anniversary at Derby since Nigel Clough in January 2011. Yesterday's game also saw Warne enter the top 10 for most Derby games managed post-war.

Probably an indictment on how short managerial careers are these days but he's also the 19th longest serving manager in the top 4 divisions. Whatever your views on Warne, it is good value for the club him getting past 50% of his contract. The manager pay outs at clubs like Stoke & Hull must be ruinous & that's even before considering the inevitable upheaval as new managers start bringing in their own backroom staff & players to suit their particular style of play.

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1 hour ago, LeedsCityRam said:

...Probably an indictment on how short managerial careers are these days but he's also the 19th longest serving manager in the top 4 divisions. Whatever your views on Warne, it is good value for the club him getting past 50% of his contract...

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Interesting him being level on games with George Burley? For comparison from Wiki.

"...Derby County's relegation saw the club enter a serious financial crisis, which forced them to sell many key players. Gregory was later suspended from his managerial duties over alleged misconduct and former Ipswich Town boss George Burley was brought in. The club was put into receivership then sold in October 2003 for £3 to a group led by Jeremy Keith. After finishing 20th in the 2003–04 season, a dramatic improvement in the 2004–05 season saw Derby finish fourth in the Championship, qualifying for a promotion play-off spot, though they lost in the semi-finals to Preston North End. Soon afterwards, Burley resigned citing differences between himself and the board...

...In 2003, Burley became interim manager of Derby County while permanent manager John Gregory was suspended. Burley managed to halt Derby's alarming slide towards the relegation zone of the First Division (just one season after relegation from the Premier League) and kept the club up comfortably. Burley was then appointed manager permanently when Gregory was sacked. The following season (2003–04) was often a struggle, with Derby actually finishing two places lower than the season before, but there were signs of improvement. This showed through in the 2004–05 season when, despite spending no money on new players, Burley transformed Derby from relegation contenders to a fourth-place finish and play-off semi-finalists. However, things were not as happy as they seemed on the surface with Burley's relationship with director of football Murdo Mackay and the club's board (who sold star player Tom Huddlestone without informing Burley) being very strained. After days of speculation and mudslinging, Burley announced his resignation from Derby in June 2005."

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2 hours ago, LeedsCityRam said:

First time we've had a manager getting to his 2nd anniversary at Derby since Nigel Clough in January 2011. Yesterday's game also saw Warne enter the top 10 for most Derby games managed post-war.

Probably an indictment on how short managerial careers are these days but he's also the 19th longest serving manager in the top 4 divisions. Whatever your views on Warne, it is good value for the club him getting past 50% of his contract. The manager pay outs at clubs like Stoke & Hull must be ruinous & that's even before considering the inevitable upheaval as new managers start bringing in their own backroom staff & players to suit their particular style of play.

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Putting an extremely cynical slant on matters (who, me 😏) could we have afforded to have got rid of Warne anyway being on a 4 year contract?

So his potential longevity as our manager will have always be tied to his performance but also the clubs ability or willingness to absorb any potential severance payments. 

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2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

Interesting him being level on games with George Burley? For comparison from Wiki.

"...Derby County's relegation saw the club enter a serious financial crisis, which forced them to sell many key players. Gregory was later suspended from his managerial duties over alleged misconduct and former Ipswich Town boss George Burley was brought in. The club was put into receivership then sold in October 2003 for £3 to a group led by Jeremy Keith. After finishing 20th in the 2003–04 season, a dramatic improvement in the 2004–05 season saw Derby finish fourth in the Championship, qualifying for a promotion play-off spot, though they lost in the semi-finals to Preston North End. Soon afterwards, Burley resigned citing differences between himself and the board...

...In 2003, Burley became interim manager of Derby County while permanent manager John Gregory was suspended. Burley managed to halt Derby's alarming slide towards the relegation zone of the First Division (just one season after relegation from the Premier League) and kept the club up comfortably. Burley was then appointed manager permanently when Gregory was sacked. The following season (2003–04) was often a struggle, with Derby actually finishing two places lower than the season before, but there were signs of improvement. This showed through in the 2004–05 season when, despite spending no money on new players, Burley transformed Derby from relegation contenders to a fourth-place finish and play-off semi-finalists. However, things were not as happy as they seemed on the surface with Burley's relationship with director of football Murdo Mackay and the club's board (who sold star player Tom Huddlestone without informing Burley) being very strained. After days of speculation and mudslinging, Burley announced his resignation from Derby in June 2005."

Suspect its the EFL Trophy matches that have brought him level with Burley who had 2 full seasons & a couple of months at end of 2002/03 season.

1 hour ago, Tyler Durden said:

Putting an extremely cynical slant on matters (who, me 😏) could we have afforded to have got rid of Warne anyway being on a 4 year contract?

So his potential longevity as our manager will have always be tied to his performance but also the clubs ability or willingness to absorb any potential severance payments. 

Certainly that was the main argument against him leaving last autumn after Stevenage/Shrewsbury games but I think the main factor in him staying was Clowes' strong belief that Warne would get it right & take us up. Being a savvy businessman, I'd be surprised if he hadn't budgeted for things going wrong though & hence a severance could probably have been funded but to the likely detriment of the playing budget and/or Academy investment. Fair to say the club is in a stronger position now though & I'd be in no rush to start new contract talks until the end of the season at least (when Warne would still have 16/17 months left in any case).

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I don’t think there were any factors because I don’t think the question of him leaving or staying etc was ever considered or asked within the club.

I think our saviour of our club had every faith in Paul Warne when he joined our club and he’s had all the very best of faith in Paul Warne ever since.

🖤 David Clowes 🖤

🖤 Paul Warne 🖤

🖤 Derby County 🖤

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