Ram-Alf Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 9 hours ago, David said: This sounds quite serious and Mr Kirchner will be spending time behind bars if found guilty. Revolution as head barperson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 39 minutes ago, angieram said: The EFL saw evidence of the money, just turns out it was money he'd allegedly embezzled from his company. Presumably Quantuma saw the same evidence too. And, as I understand it, they're duty-bound to accept the best offer for creditors, so if Kirchner's was the highest bid they basically had to accept it. The creditors would have been within their right to sue Quantuma if they'd, for example, accepted a Mike Ashley offer for 20% less than the Kirchner bid. angieram and May Contain Nuts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 16 hours ago, Mucker1884 said: I'm gonna stick my neck out here... He will hit the headlines (of sorts!), and there will be a movie based on his story, within the next decade or so. Netflix are probably already on it. It's "Inventing Anna" only it's not a sexy socialite, it's a chubby golfer Funny how often the "Fake It 'Til You Make It" thing ends up "Fake It 'Til You End Up In Prison" Mucker1884 and jono 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/former-founder-and-ceo-supply-chain-logistics-company-charged-20-million-wire-fraud He's facing up to 20 years jail time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 In all fairness, I think it's harsh to castigate those that were "taken in". He's a pro. It's what pros do! They fool everyone for years, until there's enough evidence for a semi-interesting film to be made, then everyone say's "I can't believe so many fools fell for his lies/deceit" Professional Auditors/Administrators. Blue Chip financial backers. Manchester United legends and their agent. Far East Golf Tournament Organisers. "Soccer" fans. Journalists. Jet Plane Salesmen. English Football governing bodies, and individuals therein. Radio Talkshow panelists. Ramtique Stock Managers (Winter Coat division). Convicted Drink Drivers. MPs, councillors, and local business representatives. Probably blonde bimbo(s) too?. I suspect the list is truly endless! I repeat... It's what pros do! jono, Carnero and Grimbeard 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 31 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: In all fairness, I think it's harsh to castigate those that were "taken in". It's not really surprising in some cases. Our MP is incredibly thick and will do anything for a photo op with a rich person. TuffLuff, I know nothing and Mucker1884 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I would still love to know what he would have done with the club had he got it. Crazy as this sounds, Couhig and Gibbo actually helped save the club by delaying a takeover to chances. I'm not sure that's true in that Kirchner didn't seem able to actually send the money at any point. If a deal with him had been agreed earlier, wouldn't it just have fallen through earlier giving us more time to find another buyer? RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Mucker1884, RadioactiveWaste and Hinzy9 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I bet certain apron-clinging bedroom-dwelling oppo fans are seething! Imagine how much "self-gratification" they could have had, if he had taken us over, and then this happened! ? #passmemoretissues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Thing is he has not got us and clows got us now and so grateful towards him. CBRammette and Dordogne-Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 It is utterly shameful he got as far as he did in the process. although he managed to con a major financial institution so must have been a professional blagger behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodleyRam Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 19 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: This is the kind of damage done spending a night out in Revolution Derby. Bet he was a bonafide financial genius till he went out with Lawrence on The Mile. It's this the entrepreneur's version of a career threatening knee injury then? Because Lawrence has form there... Mucker1884 and Gee SCREAMER !! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonwright Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Carnero said: https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/former-founder-and-ceo-supply-chain-logistics-company-charged-20-million-wire-fraud He's facing up to 20 years jail time ? Clync. Dordogne-Ram, Zag zig, Mostyn6 and 14 others 4 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 5 hours ago, SaffyRam said: Dear EFL, Please can you explain how he passed your fit and proper owners test? Ta SaffyRam ? If they apparently allow drug drug smugglers and match fixers to own clubs what’s a little fraud going to going to do any harm ? ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 This is just chilling - the EFL the Administrators were both going to sell us off into oblivion Mel Morris would still have had the stadium as well?♂️ This American man was a professional liar taken in thousands of people and has probably ruined just as many. Interesting that there is another American who is currently an elected senator (George Santos) who has lied about everything it seems - his name his qualifications his family history his finances and he gets to work in the Senate ?♂️ RadioactiveWaste and I know nothing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffyRam Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Reggie Greenwood said: If they apparently allow drug drug smugglers and match fixers to own clubs what’s a little fraud going to going to do any harm ? Good point! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixman1884 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 lol. Mucker1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, wixman1884 said: lol. This is no Lolling matter. We nearly died! ? Stive Pesley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) If nothing else, this particular chapter of Derby County’s history will make fascinating reading. Hope Ryan Conway’s book will be able to get to the bottom of the shenanigans, the charlatans, the hangers on (hello MPs and Mr Forkin) and the ambulance chasers. How anybody other than Clowes comes out of this with any credit will be a massive shocker (and yet, just a few months later we have booing (allegedly)). Edited February 15, 2023 by LazloW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyram Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 On 14/02/2023 at 18:39, Henrycav81 said: I’m going to have a wild guess and say your from breadsall estate Breadsall Estate, my old stomping ground. In fact Henry Cav 1981………. My era too ? Mucker1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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