Wignall12 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 55 minutes ago, Gisby said: I suspect he’s from iI’son, nuff said!!! ?? Nowt wrong with Ilson young man ! My home town ......... GB SPORTS and Gisby 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisby Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Wignall12 said: Nowt wrong with Ilson young man ! My home town ......... Mine too ? maternity home, hilly hollies ? Edited February 14, 2023 by Gisby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 41 minutes ago, CBRammette said: Thought it would be his or Keogh's fault ? He did actually take him out to revolution. The night before his meeting with Mel and the council about the ground incredibly. CBRammette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipley Ram Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2023-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, David said: kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 39 minutes ago, Shipley Ram said: https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2023-26 This sounds quite serious and Mr Kirchner will be spending time behind bars if found guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, David said: This sounds quite serious and Mr Kirchner will be spending time behind bars if found guilty. It sounds like he/his company, had a good product, and he's just got greedy and impatient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstaRam Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Always said playing golf is a bit to expensive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 hours ago, David said: This sounds quite serious and Mr Kirchner will be spending time behind bars if found guilty. Incredible how far he got in the process with everyone concerned isnt it? He talked the talk well. Dordogne-Ram, Mucker1884 and angieram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffyRam Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Dear EFL, Please can you explain how he passed your fit and proper owners test? Ta SaffyRam ? gfs1ram, MarsdenRam, Steve How Hard? and 10 others 3 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 15 hours ago, Heisenberg said: Yikes. I would still love to know what he would have done with the club had he got it. Crazy as this sounds, Couhig and Gibbo actually helped save the club by delaying a takeover to chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I saw the headline and just assumed the club really want that jacket back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I saw the headline and just assumed the club really want that jacket back. I joked at the time he was only here for the free merch. Turns out it was the free merc. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 EFL should be under investigation for passing him fit to take over! Derby4Me, Ramarena, SaffyRam and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, Topram said: EFL should be under investigation for passing him fit to take over! Oh the EFL insists on you being proved to be skint and fraudulent before blocking you, and how can you be proved to be skint and fraudulent if you don't get approval to take over an EFL club. The EFL are galaxy brains compared to us mere mortals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Topram said: EFL should be under investigation for passing him fit to take over! There are a lot of people who need investigating. We had certain "football fixers" who introduced Kirch to Derby and were seen when he was being shown round. We had reporters claiming he was worth billions, had bought a plane for 100 million etc. SJ on Talksport was lauding him as some multi-billionaire businessman who means business. We also had councillors and business leaders in the city drinking with him, some of which telling us he was the real deal. Then we had Quantuma, who would have gone through his deal, approved it and presented to the EFL. Then the famous EFL fit and proper test. Which let's be honest, Del Boy could buy Wigan Athletic with a suitcase full of dracmas and some hooky VCRs. Then there's our old club owner, who apparently, favoured Kirch over Ashley. Last but not least, the wife, who tweeted "you got the Kirch". Surely to god all of these people werent blind sided by 1 man. I will just add..one man I was critical of throughout our near demise was Keiran Maguire, and actually, he was the one man that saw through it all. Edited February 15, 2023 by MackworthRamIsGod ariotofmyown and 48 hours 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 42 minutes ago, SaffyRam said: Dear EFL, Please can you explain how he passed your fit and proper owners test? Ta SaffyRam ? The EFL saw evidence of the money, just turns out it was money he'd allegedly embezzled from his company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Charged with $67m dollar fraud. To do with fraudulently selling securities in the company to investors based on misrepresentation of the company's finances. Oh and he's charged with them nicking $20m of that to fund his lifestyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) 58 minutes ago, SaffyRam said: Dear EFL, Please can you explain how he passed your fit and proper owners test? Ta SaffyRam ? 38 minutes ago, Topram said: EFL should be under investigation for passing him fit to take over! The answer's quite straightforward really, it's because it isn't a "Hmm, I think this guy's a bit dodgy" test (nor is it called the 'fit and proper persons' test). Unfortunately for all of us, he didn't meet any of the disqualifying criteria - which is stuff like being banned as a director elsewhere, criminal record, can't provide proof of funds documents etc - and technically what he presented to them, to us, to Stretford et al checked out. Remember, Mel Morris could stroll into another club if he wanted to, there's technically nothing stopping him either. What should be under investigation, or rather what should be under review, is how stringent these checks are but but then we don't know what legal restrictions the EFL were working under and whether there's actually any more they can do when setting them. Kirchner had the money in all the right places to pass the checks as they exist - it just wasn't his! He was gambling on not being found out. He got cocky, drunk on this newfound lifestyle but as his profile rose his actions began to attract unwanted attention, and ultimately it's lead to where we are now with the FBI charges. It seems in attempting to buy a football club he bit off more than he could chew, and you have to wonder what the end-goal was when he continued the pursuit despite a growing number of eyes on his back - surely he knew it would come crashing down, so what would owning Derby County (or just Pride Park) actually have done for him? What was the point of it all? Did he think he could buy us, move to England and escape what was coming? Edited February 15, 2023 by Kokosnuss ariotofmyown and MickD 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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