OUTSIDER Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 7 hours ago, Loughborough Ram said: I have been watching Derby County for close on 50 years and rarely has there been a season where the fans haven't singled a player out for unfair criticism. After last season when the fans tended to get behind most of the players, will we have the resolution to carry that on, or will we revert to type and do our best to destroy the confidence of at least one scapegoat? After reading many of the comments following the friendlies, my personal opinion is that James Chester is starting from a point where our fans will quickly turn against him if WE don't start well and if he continues to get in ahead of Chashin. Neither of these issues can be completely controlled by Chester but I feel that he is the early front runner. Cause he is Welsh, same old story lol ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 I'll go with the ultimate happy clapper Rosenior. The team is certainly good enough, but if the results are not great from the start, it's on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 9 hours ago, Boycie said: Ok Uncle Albert! ? You can call me Al! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Brammie Steve said: You can call me Al! Any excuse! Brammie Steve, IslandExile and Miggins 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggins Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 17 hours ago, Foreveram said: John McGovern. My favourite player ever. Hated the way some fans treated him. Dordogne-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRBee Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Dimmu said: I'll go with the ultimate happy clapper Rosenior. The team is certainly good enough, but if the results are not great from the start, it's on him. The team " is certainly good enough " for what? There is a vast gulf between the different expectations of fans ( going by whats posted on here) and those thinking we can get promotion at the first attempt may well be disappointed. At the very least they will need patience given the fact we have so many newcomers . Hope we can be competitive and win a few games .. that may have to be sufficient and anything else a bonus. That patience needs to extend to Rosenior if you think " its on him " . He has had only a short time to try to integrate the players. No problems with Rosenior not being critical of the players at this stage. Wolfie, LazloW, RadioactiveWaste and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggins Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) I'm hoping that no one this season will be continuously singled out unfairly for their performance. Nothing undermines confidence more than than continual criticism. Most of us have experienced that at some time in our lives and it is horrid and doesn't help to improve a miserable situation one jot. I hope that every member of the team is encouraged and supported, especially when they are finding it tough for whatever reason. With lots of encouragement and support most of us get there in the end. Last season the fans and the team created the most amazing atmosphere of support I have ever seen and I really hope this feeling of positivity continues this season, tempered, of course, with patience. Lots of 'hopes' in this, I know, but it's taken a long time to get to this point and I'm finally going to relax and enjoy this season and support every member of our hard working team! Edited July 25, 2022 by Miggins LeedsCityRam, RadioactiveWaste, Dordogne-Ram and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 hours ago, angieram said: Any excuse! No excuse needed Angel! Anyone who can't appreciate Paul's Graceland CD should be the Rams' 21st Century Scapegoat! IslandExile, angieram and Miggins 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 We've elected Boycie as the mods scapegoat this season. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 58 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: We've elected Boycie as the mods scapegoat this season. Is he a scapegoat if he actually is the problem? angieram, uttoxram75 and Comrade 86 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, uttoxram75 said: We've elected Boycie as the mods scapegoat this season. Good idea! For some reason he calls me Uncle Albert. Still, I suppose Only fools and horses work Scapegoats get the blame, It's the rich what gets the pleasure And it's all a bloomin' shame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osbaldwick Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 My nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: We've elected Boycie as the mods scapegoat this season. Flook me I bet that was a landslide of Zimbabwean proportions.... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Flook me I bet that was a landslide of Zimbabwean proportions.... ? Putinesque.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 15 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: We've elected Boycie as the mods scapegoat this season. There's always one.... .... and.... ....it's always him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Looking at tonight's match thread, that togetherness and backing the team lasted a long time didnt it? Crikey. Perhaps we can have role reversal and have certain posters as scapegoats this season who seem intent on totally destroying certain players not just discussing the match objectively Miggins, sage, LazloW and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, CBRammette said: Looking at tonight's match thread, that togetherness and backing the team lasted a long time didnt it? Crikey. Perhaps we can have role reversal and have certain posters as scapegoats this season who seem intent on totally destroying certain players not just discussing the match objectively I think it’s fair to say that a lot of ‘fans’ have been storing this up for a year. Most of the usual suspects were cowed by the massive levels of positivity and togetherness last season and knew that their usual brand of utter b’llcks would not be tolerated. The shackles are off this season and you can already sense the knives being sharpened. The very fact there is a thread debating who the scapegoat will be tells you something (even if started with good intentions). The previously toxic atmosphere at Pride Park disappeared last year. I hope it continues this season, but I fear a few poor games and it will get grim again. We obviously need a bogey man to distract us from the odd misplaced pass. Frankly, I’d be more than happy spending another season focussing our negativity toward the Efl; a common foe, rather than digging out kids for not being up to our lofty standards. CBRammette, angieram and Miggins 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Reading the alfreton friendly thread its clearly going to be jack stretton isnt it poor lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, CBRammette said: Looking at tonight's match thread, that togetherness and backing the team lasted a long time didnt it? Crikey. Perhaps we can have role reversal and have certain posters as scapegoats this season who seem intent on totally destroying certain players not just discussing the match objectively I'm sure there was plenty of criticism on this forum last season even when we had that "togetherness" (our abysmal away record and performances for example). So, in some ways, not much has changed. What's far more important than any views expressed on this forum is that we stay behind the team at the games regardless of how things go. In some ways this forum is a safe place to let off steam (just as long as the players aren't daft enough to come on here). Miggins and CBRammette 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Curry Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) Conor Sammon... Wait... no he really was er.... not good. Edited July 27, 2022 by Bill Curry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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