BathRam72 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 13/09/2021 at 15:47, Rammeister said: He seems able to pass to another one of our players - which is a big plus. I see a tendency to pass sideways, but that could be due to lack of movement ahead of him by forwards. I think he will get stronger- just needs to not allow other teams to press his buttons like on Friday. At the end of the day does it matter? We are a very small squad, deep in the poo and he is willing to turn out probably on less than he could command. Maybe not the best but who else do we have,? Beggars can't be choosers sunnyhill60 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malty Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Ravel Morrison had now played 15 games this season. That’s more than he’s played for 7 of the last 8 seasons. He’s also now regularly playing for Jamaica. He’s paid more than likely a fraction of what he used to earn and he’s playing for a national team that has no fans and not a huge chance of qualifying for the World Cup… … and yet he’s playing and trying and showing a positive attitude. I think we probably don’t give this guy enough credit. Sure it can be frustrating when he goes backwards when he should go forwards. But frankly, in my view at least he’s the classiest player we have and I for one really hope he gets a few goals and continues to prove the doubters wrong. Plus a tip fo the hat for Rooney who so far has proved he can manage him. Come on ravel! Get a goal or two for us on Sunday!! r_wilcockson, Anag Ram, richinspain and 16 others 17 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Can’t fault his attitude, impact or performances. Lad’s desperate for a league goal, though. As soon as he gets one I think we’ll start seeing the very best of him. Abu Derby, Malty and r_wilcockson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 He’s alright as he is, part of the team. I think he’s enjoying his football again, and the possible low wages isn’t a distraction to him. Premier ram and Malty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Boycie said: He’s alright as he is, part of the team. I think he’s enjoying his football again, and the possible low wages isn’t a distraction to him. I'd love to be as low paid as him, frankly. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rev said: I'd love to be as low paid as him, frankly. You wish you could master a football like he can too I’d imagine? ? Edited November 19, 2021 by Boycie jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malty Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rev said: I'd love to be as low paid as him, frankly. Yes. I did think that. I was careful not to say sympathy. His wages are good. But remember. He’s a footballer: his career is limited to somewhere mid 30s and then he has to find something else completely to pay the bills. He has to earn heavily now to compensate for that potential fall in salary. He’s earning pretty poorly for a footballer of his ability. I don’t have sympathy, but if I were him I’d be playing my heart out now, proving I can see out a season and on the lookout for a bigger salary and a longer contract at the end of the season….…. and if he can do that at Derby or elsewhere then good luck to him … and great for Derby if he can play to his obvious standard for the time being. Ramrob and r_wilcockson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 25 minutes ago, Rev said: I'd love to be as low paid as him, frankly. Even I'd be prepared to take a small pay cut to come in under the pay cap to help the Rams.... ? Boycie and richinspain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 47 minutes ago, Malty said: Yes. I did think that. I was careful not to say sympathy. His wages are good. But remember. He’s a footballer: his career is limited to somewhere mid 30s and then he has to find something else completely to pay the bills. He has to earn heavily now to compensate for that potential fall in salary. He’s earning pretty poorly for a footballer of his ability. I don’t have sympathy, but if I were him I’d be playing my heart out now, proving I can see out a season and on the lookout for a bigger salary and a longer contract at the end of the season….…. and if he can do that at Derby or elsewhere then good luck to him … and great for Derby if he can play to his obvious standard for the time being. I see this a lot, and of course you're correct that a footballers maximum earning potential is short. There's nothing to stop them learning a different trade though, and going on to enjoy another career beyond their mid 30's. Literally everyone else has to re-skill and adapt their career path as they get older, why should footballers be any different? Did people despair when Charlie George took on a pub, or Kevin Hector became a postman, or Phil Gee and Roger Davies worked for Rolls Royce? Some of those above were top stars of their day, yet none of them got to retire on their first careers wages. I'm not knocking the individual here, just the notion that having a entirely average football career should see you earn enough to retire on in your mid 30's. nickmi16 and Carnero 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Be happy with what you’re earning, looking over the fence only leads to disappointment. It is what it is. (As Billy used to say) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Ravel is a talented footballer, many top players have commented on his natural ability. He's obviously had his demons to deal with and has never fulfilled his potential but whatever has happened in the past he actually seems at home here. He has a great first touch and can receive the ball under pressure with ease, definitely a class act. I wonder if the lads around him haven't got the awareness to make a run before he gets the ball? I get the feeling that Rav could put a killer ball through the eye of a needle if he had summat to aim at. Boycie, Steve How Hard?, The Scarlet Pimpernel and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Rev said: I see this a lot, and of course you're correct that a footballers maximum earning potential is short. There's nothing to stop them learning a different trade though, and going on to enjoy another career beyond their mid 30's. Literally everyone else has to re-skill and adapt their career path as they get older, why should footballers be any different? Did people despair when Charlie George took on a pub, or Kevin Hector became a postman, or Phil Gee and Roger Davies worked for Rolls Royce? Some of those above were top stars of their day, yet none of them got to retire on their first careers wages. I'm not knocking the individual here, just the notion that having a entirely average football career should see you earn enough to retire on in your mid 30's. I’m not criticising players for earning big money either, it’s not their fault, but surely it’s more a case of the need to receive good advice, being sensible with their spending and putting money away for a rainy day. If my maths are correct, even on the “pittance” of £4,500 per week, an 8 year career would gross £1.8m. The average man or woman in the street earning £40k every year would have to work for 46 years to match that. I know the sums don’t quite add up as footballers would be in the higher rate tax bracket but the principle is still valid (I think). I actually think it’s more important for the players mental well being to get another job at the end of their playing career than for financial reasons. Many of us dream of being able to retire early (I did but took on another contract October 2020 - June 2021 because I was bored) but it in reality I suspect it’s very difficult to simply stop working in your mid to late 30’s. jimtastic56, Chester40 and angieram 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 If would be better if his first look as he gets the ball was forward not backwards Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramifications Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I was so pleased when he came to the club. I thought with his silky skills and passing abilities, glimpses shown in the friendlies, he could turn into a Derby legend. He would get even better with match practice. Sadly, he's at the last chance saloon. In fact, possibility he might not even start for the club again. He doesn't deserve to keep his place against Bristol and if his replacement does well, Ravel could go in January. Mind you, wasn't his contract for 12 months? In some ways he seems to get worse with every game. Come on Ravel, show the world what a quality, class player you really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 He was very poor last night for sure, wouldn't write him off but he needs to sort himself out..we cannot afford passengers and for whatever reason he was one last night..should have been subbed earlier. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 For a 1 year contract on £4.5k a week he has been decent. He isn't the masterstroke we had hoped for after a few games but he has been ok. Dean (hick) Saunders, jimtastic56, Carnero and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Yani P said: He was very poor last night for sure, wouldn't write him off but he needs to sort himself out..we cannot afford passengers and for whatever reason he was one last night..should have been subbed earlier. Whether it’s the way we play, the players around him or he’s lost confidence or enthusiasm, he simply isn’t contributing enough or influencing the game and, IMO, rarely has since he arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramifications Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Should he keep his place in the starting line up against Bristol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Just now, Ramifications said: Should he keep his place in the starting line up against Bristol? Not in my opinion. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Ramifications said: Should he keep his place in the starting line up against Bristol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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