BondJovi Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Ramarena said: Your lad makes an interesting choice. I really liked johnson exactly the sort of player you need in this division, sadly he was very much overpriced. He also didn’t pass the fans test, they didn’t approve of his technical limitations despite his other valuable attributes so he was dismissed as just being poo! He was a vital cog in two spells. The unbeaten run under Mac2. And the late form that got us to Wembley under Lampard. He also had a knack of making things happen. Not always for the best though. 1967Ram and Ramarena 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Your lad makes an interesting choice. I really liked johnson exactly the sort of player you need in this division, sadly he was very much overpriced. He also didn’t pass the fans test, they didn’t approve of his technical limitations despite his other valuable attributes so he was dismissed as just being poo! More that he didn't fit. He fitted better under Lampard but he didn't really like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 15 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: There's a few we got good value out of without ever being amazing, Andi Weimann for example, of Darren Bent on a loan then free (granted his wages probably weren't good value) Realistically though, it's got to be Ince. And ol' Snakie insisted on selling him to get captain Tom in. Bent certainly knew where the goal was. Decent and underrated (for us). r_wilcockson and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said: The £40m figure is in the accounts and was well documented. The wages of those players I was told by former colleagues. Know the wage bill was £40m but never seen it reported that any of them were on over £30k per week. Not that it makes much difference, none of them were value for money anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Carson was the best signing - cheap and excellent for several seasons. Vydra was a very good signing - the best #10 in the league, who exceled as soon as we played him as a #10 (funny that) I always thought that Ince made the team worse, despite scoring some very good goals. Still a decent signing as we made a profit, but no where near the best. What is a bit upsetting though is that even Carson or Vydra were not as good a signings as Bryson, Russell, Ward, Keogh, Martin, Forsyth, Brayford or Buxton. Come back Simon Clough, all is forgiven (except maybe Conor Sammon). Carl Sagan and ariotofmyown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, BondJovi said: He was a vital cog in two spells. The unbeaten run under Mac2. And the late form that got us to Wembley under Lampard. He also had a knack of making things happen. Not always for the best though. He ran the show at Old Trafford when we beat them too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: Carson was the best signing - cheap and excellent for several seasons. Vydra was a very good signing - the best #10 in the league, who exceled as soon as we played him as a #10 (funny that) I always thought that Ince made the team worse, despite scoring some very good goals. Still a decent signing as we made a profit, but no where near the best. What is a bit upsetting though is that even Carson or Vydra were not as good a signings as Bryson, Russell, Ward, Keogh, Martin, Forsyth, Brayford or Buxton. Come back Simon Clough, all is forgiven (except maybe Conor Sammon). I even preferred Grant to Carson (as good as Carson was) GB SPORTS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 8 hours ago, BondJovi said: He was a vital cog in two spells. The unbeaten run under Mac2. And the late form that got us to Wembley under Lampard. He also had a knack of making things happen. Not always for the best though. It’s amazing how good players become when they aren’t playing for us. johnson was very very average, in fact the dictionary definition of average at his BEST. At his worst (which was75% of the time) he was complete dog excrement and a total waste of a shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buckley’s Dog Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 7 hours ago, CornwallRam said: Carson was the best signing - cheap and excellent for several seasons. Vydra was a very good signing - the best #10 in the league, who exceled as soon as we played him as a #10 (funny that) I always thought that Ince made the team worse, despite scoring some very good goals. Still a decent signing as we made a profit, but no where near the best. What is a bit upsetting though is that even Carson or Vydra were not as good a signings as Bryson, Russell, Ward, Keogh, Martin, Forsyth, Brayford or Buxton. Come back Simon Clough, all is forgiven (except maybe Conor Sammon). Conor Sammon. He would pretty much walk into our team now though wouldn’t he. Perhaps we could appoint Simon and Nigel as head of scouting because it has to be said, they did ok! Who would have thought Brian’s sons would know more than Mel’s and Steve McClaren’s. What a funny club we are. I wonder if Mel Sage and Gary Micklewhite have children who could form our scouting team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Steve Buckley’s Dog said: Conor Sammon. He would pretty much walk into our team now though wouldn’t he. Perhaps we could appoint Simon and Nigel as head of scouting because it has to be said, they did ok! Who would have thought Brian’s sons would know more than Mel’s and Steve McClaren’s. What a funny club we are. I wonder if Mel Sage and Gary Micklewhite have children who could form our scouting team. Him and Jerome up front. Probably get them both for 100k now We'd probably not get many goals but plenty of centre halves would have black eyes and sore heads. Be handy to dish it out for once. Edited September 11, 2021 by Gee SCREAMER !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: It’s amazing how good players become when they aren’t playing for us. johnson was very very average, in fact the dictionary definition of average at his BEST. At his worst (which was75% of the time) he was complete dog excrement and a total waste of a shirt. He was absolutely immense in that run under McClaren though. In that run we were solid defensively (I think we broke clean sheet records) and he was an absolute beast screening for Keogh and Pearce. He definitely was the best anchor we had under Lampard as well. As good as Huddlestone’s passing range was Johnson brought structure to the team. At his best for us he was a better Eustace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Him and Jerome up front. Probably get them both for 100k now We'd probably not get many goals but plenty of centre halves would have black eyes and sore heads. Be handy to dish it out for once. I always jokingly wondered how good a football would be if they had Conor Sammon’s body but Chrissy Martin’s technique and intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 minute ago, cannable said: He was absolutely immense in that run under McClaren though. In that run we were solid defensively (I think we broke clean sheet records) and he was an absolute beast screening for Keogh and Pearce. He definitely was the best anchor we had under Lampard as well. As good as Huddlestone’s passing range was Johnson brought structure to the team. At his best for us he was a better Eustace. No way was he better than Eustace for us at CDM. Not even close. GB SPORTS, Carl Sagan, LeedsCityRam and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 8 hours ago, TimRam said: Bent certainly knew where the goal was. Decent and underrated (for us). I keep reading that Marriott was unfit and lazy. Bent was like Rip Van Winkle compared to him. Should have been able to get 25 goals a season in this league but was 20 pounds too heavy and wouldn't move more than 10 feet. Another final payday member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Just now, sage said: No way was he better than Eustace for us at CDM. Not even close. Meh, I don’t think Eustace would have looked as good as Johnson did in 16/17. You can’t underestimate how good he was in the air. Teams would target Keogh aerially if they had a lump up front but whenever Johnson was sitting he’d screen target men so effectively it wasn’t even an issue. Under Lampard he did, on occasions, show that he could run football matches himself as well. Brentford and Man United spring to mind. Eustace was certainly more consistent and streetwise. I know a lot of that Derby team say he’s the best that they’ve ever played with - which always surprised me when you think how good Thorne was. r_wilcockson and Dordogne-Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 On 11/09/2021 at 00:11, Bris Vegas said: Great wages too. Rowett signing Wisdom, Davies, Ledley, Huddlestone, Lawrence and Jerome all on over £30k per week saw our wage bill balloon up to £40m. I guess it really depends on what we define as the best signing. Matej Vydra is the best player we have signed. Tom Ince statistically contributed the most and we made the biggest profit on him. Davies has definitely been an excellent servant though. Read the OP’s question. Wages are not mentioned. Without a shadow of a doubt it’s Huddlestone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, cannable said: Meh, I don’t think Eustace would have looked as good as Johnson did in 16/17. You can’t underestimate how good he was in the air. Teams would target Keogh aerially if they had a lump up front but whenever Johnson was sitting he’d screen target men so effectively it wasn’t even an issue. Under Lampard he did, on occasions, show that he could run football matches himself as well. Brentford and Man United spring to mind. Eustace was certainly more consistent and streetwise. I know a lot of that Derby team say he’s the best that they’ve ever played with - which always surprised me when you think how good Thorne was. Memory might be playing tricks here, but Johnson seemed to play well under Rowett when he played with Ledley during a run October to December when we were stuffing Hull and Villa and digging out very physical draws at places like Brentford. Then Ledley got injured and his form dropped off. Ledley seemed a good foil for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, cannable said: Meh, I don’t think Eustace would have looked as good as Johnson did in 16/17. You can’t underestimate how good he was in the air. Teams would target Keogh aerially if they had a lump up front but whenever Johnson was sitting he’d screen target men so effectively it wasn’t even an issue. Under Lampard he did, on occasions, show that he could run football matches himself as well. Brentford and Man United spring to mind. Eustace was certainly more consistent and streetwise. I know a lot of that Derby team say he’s the best that they’ve ever played with - which always surprised me when you think how good Thorne was. He did make some good headers but also lost his man several times at corners when we conceded goals. Badly Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Read the OP’s question. Wages are not mentioned. Without a shadow of a doubt it’s Huddlestone Followed by Morrison. Give Wayne credit Edited September 11, 2021 by kevinhectoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSD Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Curtis Davies and Bielik. Without them pair we'd have been league one fodder by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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