belperram9 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Found Liam quite irritating today. He was constantly jumping from the bench in front of Rooney shouting instructions to the players. I very much doubt he was directed to do this by Rooney and was seemingly trying to manage the team as if he was head coach at times. It must have been quite frustrating Wayne, but he probably feels he cannot say anything. I do sometimes feel Liam craves the limelight and recognition at times but fails to acknowledge he is the number 2 and at times forgets? He is very confident in his own ability but I do feel he undermines Wayne by procrastinating his own ideas as if he is the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 I don’t rate him. strawhillram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) He is trying to be the new Tord Grip. Edited August 7, 2021 by hintonsboots Too many p’s norwichram and StockholmRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, belperram9 said: Found Liam quite irritating today. He was constantly jumping from the bench in front of Rooney shouting instructions to the players. I very much doubt he was directed to do this by Rooney and was seemingly trying to manage the team as if he was head coach at times. It must have been quite frustrating Wayne, but he probably feels he cannot say anything. I do sometimes feel Liam craves the limelight and recognition at times but fails to acknowledge he is the number 2 and at times forgets? He is very confident in his own ability but I do feel he undermines Wayne by procrastinating his own ideas as if he is the manager. Rooney is extremely quiet though and perhaps relies on Rosenior to get his instructions across? Carl Sagan, LeedsCityRam, JustOneBiblicalKazim and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 I was sat right behind the dugout and it was amusing comparing and contrasting Rooney and Rosenoir - Rooney totally impassive, arms folded, Rosenoir jumping around like he had St Vitus dance. The number of bottles of water Rosenoir quaffed was quite incredible too, maybe he's still hungover from his night out last weekend. i-Ram, Ramarena, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belperram9 Posted August 7, 2021 Author Share Posted August 7, 2021 Just now, Tyler Durden said: I was sat right behind the dugout and it was amusing comparing and contrasting Rooney and Rosenoir - Rooney totally impassive, arms folded, Rosenoir jumping around like he had St Vitus dance. The number of bottles of water Rosenoir quaffed was quite incredible too, maybe he's still hungover from his night out last weekend. I would find that quite irritating if I were Wayne in that scenario. The players no doubt feed off the body language of their coach, perhaps being passive at times helps players relax, rather than screaming all the time a la warnock style. Maybe Rooney is purposely being passive to try and relax his players and if so, Liam behaving the way he does wouldn’t help and certainly sends mixed messages from the bench. Tyler Durden, jono and Colm 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Just now, belperram9 said: I would find that quite irritating if I were Wayne in that scenario. The players no doubt feed off the body language of their coach, perhaps being passive at times helps players relax, rather than screaming all the time a la warnock style. Maybe Rooney is purposely being passive to try and relax his players and if so, Liam behaving the way he does wouldn’t help and certainly sends mixed messages from the bench. Yin and Yang and all that stuff maybe. I actually wonder how much attention the players pay to the bench during a game as a matter of interest. therealhantsram, jono, TigerTedd and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: I was sat right behind the dugout and it was amusing comparing and contrasting Rooney and Rosenoir - Rooney totally impassive, arms folded, Rosenoir jumping around like he had St Vitus dance. The number of bottles of water Rosenoir quaffed was quite incredible too, maybe he's still hungover from his night out last weekend. I thought that you were going to say that Wayne looked as though he was asleep, but then realised that he had his arms folded and didn't have his hands in his pockets. Bald Eagle's Barmy Army, Deej, Tyler Durden and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, belperram9 said: Found Liam quite irritating today. He was constantly jumping from the bench in front of Rooney shouting instructions to the players. I very much doubt he was directed to do this by Rooney and was seemingly trying to manage the team as if he was head coach at times. It must have been quite frustrating Wayne, but he probably feels he cannot say anything. I do sometimes feel Liam craves the limelight and recognition at times but fails to acknowledge he is the number 2 and at times forgets? He is very confident in his own ability but I do feel he undermines Wayne by procrastinating his own ideas as if he is the manager. Proffering not procrastinating which means to delay your intended action. I sort of agree with you though. We can put it down to over enthusiasm perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: I was sat right behind the dugout and it was amusing comparing and contrasting Rooney and Rosenoir - Rooney totally impassive, arms folded, Rosenoir jumping around like he had St Vitus dance. The number of bottles of water Rosenoir quaffed was quite incredible too, maybe he's still hungover from his night out last weekend. Rooney’s idea to calm Rosenior down was to give him still water. Tyler Durden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, richinspain said: I thought that you were going to say that Wayne looked as though he was asleep, but then realised that he had his arms folded and didn't have his hands in his pockets. richinspain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rampage said: Proffering not procrastinating which means to delay your intended action. I sort of agree with you though. We can put it down to over enthusiasm perhaps. Maybe he proffers his own opinions as he's fed up with Rooney procrastinating all the time. Who knows. Word of the day though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 42 minutes ago, belperram9 said: Found Liam quite irritating today. He was constantly jumping from the bench in front of Rooney shouting instructions to the players. I very much doubt he was directed to do this by Rooney and was seemingly trying to manage the team as if he was head coach at times. It must have been quite frustrating Wayne, but he probably feels he cannot say anything. I do sometimes feel Liam craves the limelight and recognition at times but fails to acknowledge he is the number 2 and at times forgets? He is very confident in his own ability but I do feel he undermines Wayne by procrastinating his own ideas as if he is the manager. You do know Wayne has previously said in an interview he wants LR to be the more vocal one on the touch line? Also, you really think Wayne won't say anything if he didn't like or want it? Personally I think LR has a far better footballing knowledge of a brain than WR has. thelovebelow, JustOneBiblicalKazim, angieram and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I'm guessing the dynamic is just how they work as a pair? They've been doing a little while now. Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 10 hours ago, Gritstone Ram said: I don’t rate him. I do, we are better for him being here Yani P, strawhillram, Reggie Greenwood and 4 others 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I have no idea whatsoever about his abilities. He does seem to be vocal, even gobby at times. He has a combative demeanour which doesn’t endear him to me but when we talk about goal keepers needing own their area, call out to team mates along with differing management styles and needing “leaders” : surely we can’t critique without knowing what they both do behind the scenes. Taribo, Reggie Greenwood, The Key Club King and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 10 hours ago, rammieib said: You do know Wayne has previously said in an interview he wants LR to be the more vocal one on the touch line? Also, you really think Wayne won't say anything if he didn't like or want it? Personally I think LR has a far better footballing knowledge of a brain than WR has. Interesting you think that. I think the opposite. I also think WR’s is backed up by experience of having walked the walk. I don’t think LR’s view would ever trump WR’s view if I was a player listening to instructions. RoyMac5 and Yani P 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Ram Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 11 hours ago, hintonsboots said: He is trying to be the new Tord Grip. We don't need Tord Grip, we just need Geta Grip ? EtoileSportiveDeDerby, i-Ram and hintonsboots 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Hmm I wonder why out of all our coaches Rosenoir get the most stick based on such little evidence Tombo, TuffLuff, Premier ram and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, sage said: Hmm I wonder why out of all our coaches Rosenoir get the most stick based on such little evidence Perhaps for the very reasons stated he seems to be the most verbal and visual in the area on the side of the pitch - lol can't remember what that box is called! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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