Let's talk about bans, warnings and closing of accounts

[maxjam]

49 minutes ago, David said:

I hear you on consistency and agree with you, whilst at the same time thinking for a community this size where we don’t have an influx of members dropping in and out the forum, having a bit of leniency at times is the way to go.

If it reached the size of Sega where the small community vibe had gone and we barely had chance to put our own opinions out there, we would probably handle it different.

Another example I would throw out there is courts, if you have no criminal record, first offence, you’re likely to be treated a lot differently to someone with a criminal record as long as their arm.

Whilst that analogy doesn’t truly translate, it’s just another area in life where you’re treated differently due to circumstances.

Yeah I agree with a lot of that and as I said I don't really have any problem with the forum atm.  I would just be aware that over time as small groups become better acquainted with each other the level of acceptable banter between them naturally increases.  If you're more of a casual forum user and see instances such as those highlighted above you might feel a bit aggrieved if you join in and get a ban - then, as you know,  they go vent on twitter etc and put a cloud over an otherwise very good forum.

Personally, I think its great you've allowed Bris back on the forum and explained your reasons as to why.  I'm all for genuine remorse and second chances ?

[Tyler Durden]

5 hours ago, Srg said:

Sieg Heil.

I got banned from Facebook for putting that as a supposedly funny caption against a picture. 

[ariotofmyown]

1 hour ago, Tyler Durden said:

I got banned from Facebook for putting that as a supposedly funny caption against a picture. 

But if you had formed your own far right party, you'd have probably got a huge following now as Facebook's algorithm connected you to people who agreed.

[Boycie]

3 hours ago, David said:

Just to say I do appreciate the replies, I didn’t have to say anything you’re right, but I consider myself an “active” admin who is part of the community, where as others choose to remain fairly anonymous on other forums.

From time to time situations arise where I think, I’ll go out there, be open, transparent, you know who I am, not someone you hear from once every 6 months and by being that way it keeps the respect between members and moderation team working both ways.

Transparent and open, my arse!

[richinspain]

37 minutes ago, Boycie said:

Transparent and open, my arse!

None of us want to see your open arse through your transparent undergarments thank you very much.

[BucksRam]

2 hours ago, Tyler Durden said:

I got banned from Facebook for putting that as a supposedly funny caption against a picture. 

And I got sent out of the room, lectured and packed off to bed early when I did that at school camp once some 40 years ago when we sang a campfire song in German. OK, it was at a Christian run activity centre in Wales and at the time I had no real idea of the offense it would cause; I just thought it was funny as we were singing in German.  Context is everything. 

[BucksRam]

@David I've lurked around on this forum for some 6 years now, but only started participating not that long ago in the scheme of things.  It'd be interesting to know the level of complaints, leavers or banned over the past 18 months against what you experience "normally". 

With COVID and the stress this has caused many of us personally affected by the illness, or through lock-down, plus the nightmare that's surrounded our club during that time, I wouldn't be surprised if some members were more negative or challenging than they would normally be, using the forum as an opportunity to get things off their chests, not least when they couldn't do it down the pub, or at a game. Conversely, some were (are) probably more sensitive as a result and perhaps take things more personally than usual.  It's a thin line. 

I know lots of members socialise off platform and are friends so it is difficult at times for others looking in to know that some things said will be to mates and so won't be taken as offense.  As for me, I don't know anyone of here personally (at least, I assume not) so for me, much as I'm not afraid of confrontation, I try and ensure anything I write is considered and respectful. But that's just me. 

Kudos to all you guys and gals who run and moderate this great forum.  It can't be easy letting us have a voice at times.  As I've said before, with a lot of poo in my life this past 2 years, this forum has been a great release for me.  Keep up the good work.  

[Miggins]

4 hours ago, David said:

No excuse to be walking round naked in their though. Angie doesn’t know where to look bless her.

We all know where to look, but it's a bit like a solar eclipse. You know you shouldn't look directly at it because you'll go blind, but you can't help but steal a quick peek from time to time.

 

[Bris Vegas]

The perils of social media. It has given a platform for anybody to lie for personal gain, bully, abuse, threaten and give the notion that somebody’s opinion is worth just as much as an opposing fact.

 

[Pearl Ram]

I’ve never quite understood why anybody asks for their account to be deleted.

It’s not like anybody from the admin/mod team would contact you to ask why you’ve stopped posting if you did just that. If something’s given you the hump and you want to call it a day fair enough but asking for your account to be deleted is a) burning your bridges, ( because you know you’ll miss the place and regret your decision) and b) making sure your departure is noticed and therefore a bit of a flounce to me. Attention seeking in other words.

Maybe there is indeed another reason but I don’t know what it is. ?‍♂️

[Bris Vegas]

4 minutes ago, Pearl Ram said:

I’ve never quite understood why anybody asks for their account to be deleted.

It’s not like anybody from the admin/mod team would contact you to ask why you’ve stopped posting if you did just that. If something’s given you the hump and you want to call it a day fair enough but asking for your account to be deleted is a) burning your bridges, ( because you know you’ll miss the place and regret your decision) and b) making sure your departure is noticed and therefore a bit of a flounce to me. Attention seeking in other words.

Maybe there is indeed another reason but I don’t know what it is. ?‍♂️

An unhealthy addiction, perhaps? I think it’s quite common for gamblers to ask bookies to ban them to prevent them from any impulsive gambling.

Maybe it’s the same on here. Getting dragged into spats isn’t good for their health and wellbeing so perhaps asking to be banned could allow time to cool off. 

[Pearl Ram]

Just now, Bris Vegas said:

An unhealthy addiction, perhaps? I think it’s quite common for gamblers to ask bookies to ban them to prevent them from any impulsive gambling.

Maybe it’s the same on here. Getting dragged into spats isn’t good for their health and wellbeing so perhaps asking to be banned could allow time to cool off. 

Totally agree with your first example but don’t follow or understand the second.

If they need time to cool off just don’t log in. I’ve done that myself on here, someone gave me the right hump, badly, I just took six months away from the forum, sorted myself out and came back when I felt like it. I would have been pretty fed up if I’d asked David to delete my account then asked him if I could come back and he replied “No baalocks, the place is better without you”

[Bris Vegas]

1 minute ago, Pearl Ram said:

Totally agree with your first example but don’t follow or understand the second.

If they need time to cool off just don’t log in. I’ve done that myself on here, someone gave me the right hump, badly, I just took six months away from the forum, sorted myself out and came back when I felt like it. I would have been pretty fed up if I’d asked David to delete my account then asked him if I could come back and he replied “No baalocks, the place is better without you”

It could be easier said than done (simply logging off, stepping back and taking voluntary time off).

We live in an age where we spend more time with a phone in our hands than without. The internet is accessible anywhere, and notifications are a constant drawback. Moreover, with restrictions over the past 18 months, social media has in some cases provided the only source of entertainment and togetherness. Addiction to social media is rife.

Perhaps asking for a ban (ableit temporary) is a plausible solution. 

How many times have you deleted an app on your phone/ipad for instance so you don’t see it there on the screen, wanting to open it up? When I was a kid, I had to delete Command and Conquer Tiberian Sun off my computer and snap the disc to stop myself playing it. I was proper addicted to that.

[DarkFruitsRam7]

45 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said:

The perils of social media. It has given a platform for anybody to lie for personal gain, bully, abuse, threaten and give the notion that somebody’s opinion is worth just as much as an opposing fact.

 

Does attention count as personal gain?

[i-Ram]

46 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said:

The perils of social media. It has given a platform for anybody to lie for personal gain, bully, abuse, threaten and give the notion that somebody’s opinion is worth just as much as an opposing fact.

 

It’s ok Bris, I stopped long ago clicking on your articles ?

Good to have you back.

[Pearl Ram]

1 minute ago, Bris Vegas said:

It could be easier said than done (simply logging off, stepping back and taking voluntary time off).

We live in an age where we spend more time with a phone in our hands than without. The internet is accessible anywhere, and notifications are a constant drawback. Moreover, with restrictions over the past 18 months, social media has in some cases provided the only source of entertainment and togetherness. Addiction to social media is rife.

Perhaps asking for a ban (ableit temporary) is a plausible solution. 

How many times have you deleted an app on your phone/ipad for instance so you don’t see it there on the screen, wanting to open it up? When I was a kid, I had to delete Command and Conquer Tiberian Sun off my computer and snap the disc to stop myself playing it. I was proper addicted to that.

Oh. I thought if you weren’t logged in you couldn’t see any notifications. I see your point vis-a-vie the importance of social media during this last 16/17 months though, I bet certain sites/platforms have been a lifeline to some. 

I can honestly write, hand on heart, I have never deleted an app and wished I hadn’t. But then I only use my my iPad for football, dog related stuff and buying things. I don’t have Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and the other one who’s name escapes me. 

[Bris Vegas]

2 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said:

Does attention count as personal gain?

In terms of financially gaining, I don’t think it does. A quick boost in self-esteem perhaps! 

[Bris Vegas]

1 minute ago, Pearl Ram said:

Oh. I thought if you weren’t logged in you couldn’t see any notifications. I see your point vis-a-vie the importance of social media during this last 16/17 months though, I bet certain sites/platforms have been a lifeline to some. 

I can honestly write, hand on heart, I have never deleted an app and wished I hadn’t. But then I only use my my iPad for football, dog related stuff and buying things. I don’t have Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and the other one who’s name escapes me. 

You’re a rare breed buddy, and equally fortunate!

 

[Pearl Ram]

2 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said:

You’re a rare breed buddy, and equally fortunate!

 

Nah, I’m just an old fart. ??

[Tyler Durden]

Total respect to the mods on here for the job they do, anyone who has to put up with my nonsense day in day out deserves a medal