richinspain Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 He and Ibe were definitely worth the risk. Their wages in football terms would have been low, with a possible jackpot if successful. Cheers, Richinspain from Spain (weirdly) Carl Sagan, Taribo, Ghost of Clough and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 13 hours ago, tombomb said: Why are we doing this? if were not gaining a spot to bring another player we are just sending out one of the only options we currently have if kaz gets injured He's the type who needs to play off a big CF and cannot play that leading role by himself. The only place he can play in a 4231 is the AM role, but he hasn't got the all round game to play that in the Championship With the lack of options in our squad, I expected him to start challenging for a first team place. I suppose he was told Kazim, Baldock and Stretton will be the first team options this season and he didn't think he'd get a chance. Plange has already performed better than him at U23 level too. WIth Cybulski stepping up to the U23s this move works out well for both parties. jono, r_wilcockson, RoyMac5 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangwayD Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: He's the type who needs to play off a big CF and cannot play that leading role by himself. The only place he can play in a 4231 is the AM role, but he hasn't got the all round game to play that in the Championship With the lack of options in our squad, I expected him to start challenging for a first team place. I suppose he was told Kazim, Baldock and Stretton will be the first team options this season and he didn't think he'd get a chance. Plange has already performed better than him at U23 level too. WIth Cybulski stepping up to the U23s this move works out well for both parties. I agree with the above. It was mentioned in the Jack Marriott thread that we do seem to bring in players who have done well in a system which we don't actually play. Jonny Russell actually came to us as a forward but we converted him into an attacking midfielder, so it can work, but not sure why we don't scout round pegs for round holes. Not really seen enough of Duncan to make comment, but he does seem to be the type of player that prefers to work in a pair up front. Kind Regards Gangway D from the terrace jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo’s left foot Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Good move this, he has not made any progress with us, time to move on, a small fee no doubt, and a modest wages saving. It all helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Think the lad needed game-time but you have to earn your chances and that's difficult when you're not really getting a look in. Catch-22 I reckon so perhaps a move is best for all parties. Good luck to the lad. Anag Ram and jono 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 He needs to learn patience Taribo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Woodley Ram said: He needs to learn patience and the difference between 'self-belief' and 'believing the hype' Deej and Woodley Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Yeah cya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Fallen through available on a free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Didn’t we sign him on a free so no loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 46 minutes ago, David said: Didn’t we sign him on a free so no loss? Not quite no loss, from The Athletic: "It had seemed earlier this week that Duncan was on the verge of securing another transfer — his fourth in as many summers. Discussions were held in Denmark with Vejle Boldklub but The Athletic has been told that terms were not agreed. His departure would have saved around £3k a week in wages, with Derby willing to let him leave for free. Duncan is yet to return to the club and officials are understood to be furious." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Not quite no loss, from The Athletic: "It had seemed earlier this week that Duncan was on the verge of securing another transfer — his fourth in as many summers. Discussions were held in Denmark with Vejle Boldklub but The Athletic has been told that terms were not agreed. His departure would have saved around £3k a week in wages, with Derby willing to let him leave for free. Duncan is yet to return to the club and officials are understood to be furious." Didn’t think we would actually lose him as in lose HIM. Anyone tried ringing his parents? 48 hours, r_wilcockson and angieram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 33 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Not quite no loss, from The Athletic: "It had seemed earlier this week that Duncan was on the verge of securing another transfer — his fourth in as many summers. Discussions were held in Denmark with Vejle Boldklub but The Athletic has been told that terms were not agreed. His departure would have saved around £3k a week in wages, with Derby willing to let him leave for free. Duncan is yet to return to the club and officials are understood to be furious." The Club are furious ? I will give Duncan the benefit of the doubt at the mo. He may simply have fallen alseep in a Manchester Hotel. rammieib, Ambitious, Ghost of Clough and 7 others 1 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Igor Whats the Score? Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 It’s pretty simple….he gets fined for not turning up if that’s the case BPV, DCFC1388 and therealhantsram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Pure opinion and conjecture and he's only a child but boy does he seem like a *******. If he was half as talented or as hardworking as his social media would have you believe then he would have been given a chance at Liverpool (albeit a loan probably), Fiorentina or here. Get your head down and let your football do the talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Taribo said: Pure opinion and conjecture and he's only a child but boy does he seem like a *******. If he was half as talented or as hardworking as his social media would have you believe then he would have been given a chance at Liverpool (albeit a loan probably), Fiorentina or here. Get your head down and let your football do the talking. He's another player who will steal a living based on his family connections and time in high profile academies. I fully expect him to be pulling this same poo for several years complete with fans passing around YouTube clips of that one time he scored for Fiorentina reserves and fatuous ex players waffling about how he could've been one of the greats if not for his crippling mental health issues. i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Anon said: He's another player who will steal a living based on his family connections and time in high profile academies. I fully expect him to be pulling this same poo for several years complete with fans passing around YouTube clips of that one time he scored for Fiorentina reserves and fatuous ex players waffling about how he could've been one of the greats if not for his crippling mental health issues. Morrison has at least demonstrated his ability at first team level, albeit briefly. 5 goals and 2 assists in 21 games for West Ham in the first half of the 13/14 season, with 6 goals and 2 assists in 17 games for QPR in the second half of that season as they beat us in the playoffs. Duncan's career highlight to date is finishing the 18/19 season as the U18 PL joint 3rd top scorer, level with Whittaker having played more games. Edited July 29, 2021 by Ghost of Clough RoyMac5, angieram, DarkFruitsRam7 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 4 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Not quite no loss, from The Athletic: "It had seemed earlier this week that Duncan was on the verge of securing another transfer — his fourth in as many summers. Discussions were held in Denmark with Vejle Boldklub but The Athletic has been told that terms were not agreed. His departure would have saved around £3k a week in wages, with Derby willing to let him leave for free. Duncan is yet to return to the club and officials are understood to be furious." Probably furious that he couldn't agree terms... If he has gone AWOL then at least we can be fining him... But either way, no smoke without mirrors and if he hasn't returned when he should have done, for me, it just sums his personality up all over! Igor Igor Whats the Score? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Hughes Hair Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 On 28/07/2021 at 15:03, Woodley Ram said: He needs to learn patience How is learning a card game going to improve him? jono, Gisby, Steve How Hard? and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I always remember Wenger talking about Giggs (I don’t want to get in to Ryans off field behaviour which sounds a bit grim) But there was Giggs scoring in the prem aged 38 .. Wenger said .. “think of the work, think of the sacrifice to reach that level AND stay there.” I sort of get the feeling that with Duncan was in the door, saw what was available and thought .. I am good enough for that … but the work / sacrifice side of it didn’t quite reach his attitude ? Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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