Ruud Aralliss Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, sage said: Not being able to sign players will mean a points deduction every Saturday. This is probably true. SW didn’t recover though did they? I’m not saying that six points is a relegation sentence, but we would also have to have a good team as well. If we submitted the accounts immediately and failed ( hypothetically of course) without a takeover and some way of not falling foul of FFP, would we have the funds to fields team that can avoid the drop starting at -6 ( at least)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ruud Aralliss said: This would solve a few problems, but I’m sure I’m not alone in thinking that this would maybe result in a points deduction. I can’t see any other reason for the delay. I've not got anything that says this is the case, but I wonder if it might be that there's still disagreements between the club and the EFL as to how the accounts should be submitted. There was a couple of mentions in the DC judgment about the club believing they could increase the profit from the stadium sale as recorded in the accounts, and to potentially use a non-straight-line method of amortisation that would still comply with the accountancy rules. It might be that the EFL don't agree with these. I can't see why we wouldn't want to submit the accounts. Even if we breach the spending limits, is there really any benefit for waiting a few weeks to submit them if they're over anyway? r_wilcockson and Ruud Aralliss 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: So if he can't sign anyone, why is he picking trialists in preseason friendlies and using up valuable match time with players he can't pick for proper games? Well I imagine he is hoping the situation will change. It it doesn't our side v Huddersfield is Marshall Byrne Cashin Forsyth Buchanan Bird Shinnie Sibley Jozwiak CKR Lawrence Edited July 24, 2021 by sage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EraniosSocks Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, sage said: Well I imagine he is hoping the situation will change. It it doesn't our side v Huddersfield is Marshall Byrne Cashin Forsyth Buchanan Bird Shinnie Shinnie Jozwiak CKR Lawrence I'd rather 11 Shinnies than two mate ?? Jimbo Ram and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967RAMS Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 47 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: I understand the anger and frustration, hell even shame of Derby fans right now but I'm not sure what Mel Morris is supposed to do at this juncture. He wants to sell but if no one wants to buy what can he do? If he sacks Rooney that's another debt that pushes us back. We have to be very careful in choosing who we add to the squad and presumably that will be Rooney's decision. The problem for me lies with a bunch of players with no ambition. There's no one really barking at this team. There's no one saying give it to me cis I'm having a go. It's all sideways and backwards because that's the safe option. We lack physicality. I saw Bird, Aluko, Baldock, Buchanan all pushed off the ball with ease. We need to identify the players who will run through brick walls for Derby County and we need a different captain because Lawrence so often goes missing. That's not Mel's fault. I have to disagree. Mel has hired the managers and fired them too. If the ethos within the squad is poor it’s a reflection of his atrocious handling of senior appointments and player acquisitions. It must be very difficult for the manager (even a good one) and the players to motivate themselves for the season ahead whilst the cancer within our club remains in charge. Mel is trying to recoup some of his outlay, which is why the takeover will not happen. He needs to be realistic, the club is worthless ( actually worse than worthless) when big debts massively outsize the assets. He is hoping for a miracle and a mega rich person to through sacks of cash at him and the club. The trouble is people don’t get mega rich by spunking millions on a basket case. It’s death by a thousand cuts at present and I can’t see any light at the end of this long, dark tunnel jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, EraniosSocks said: I'd rather 11 Shinnies than two mate ?? That's how short we are a EraniosSocks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Does anyone know why Amazon didn’t do the documentary on us in the end? It would be absolute Prime viewing and would be a Godfather 2 to Sunderland Till I Die jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minesahartington Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, EraniosSocks said: Very true Roy, but the comments have showed that he has a sense nothing is going to come of it? So why keep going? Try and mould the threadbare team you have Don’t walk if you are on a contract. Wait for the compromise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Never quite sure how much Nixon knows and how much he 'extrapolates'...but what does this mean? IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmerman Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 You've gotta feel for Rooney in this,promised x y and z and been given nothing to play with. If he walked away he'd have a fair whack of credibility left intact,but why should he when he's getting paid still jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, bimmerman said: You've gotta feel for Rooney in this,promised x y and z and been given nothing to play with. If he walked away he'd have a fair whack of credibility left intact, but why should he when he's getting paid still He wants to do well with this club. Why is that so hard to believe, we all love the club. The Scarlet Pimpernel, bimmerman, r_wilcockson and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) There's a lot here that doesn't add up; Percy tweeted on Weds we were set to offer contracts to Davies, Wisdom & Morrison Rooney is playing a number of trialists 2 weeks out from the opening game with seemingly no certainty they can play in League games Tom Carroll is training here whilst apparently having a contract offer on the table from QPR Like the tweet Alan Nixon has just put out suggests, think there's a bit of politics going on & probably some media pressure being applied by Rooney, knowing the fans will direct heat at Mel & Pearce. My wild guess is that the takeover is close (some suggestion on twitter this might be the 'other reason' for not being to sign players) but wonder if some dispute over price/debts to resolve. Edited July 24, 2021 by LeedsCityRam Ramarena, r_wilcockson, Igor Igor Whats the Score? and 5 others 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, LeedsCityRam said: Like the tweet Alan Nixon has just put out suggests, think there's a bit of politics going on... But he then goes on to suggest it's the EFL changing the 'rules', read all his tweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmerman Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: He wants to do well with this club. Why is that so hard to believe, we all love the club. Oh not denying that at all,just feel for the bloke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, RoyMac5 said: But he then goes on to suggest it's the EFL changing the 'rules', read all his tweets. Hence my suggestion about the takeover being the reason for a further 'embargo'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, LeedsCityRam said: Hence my suggestion about the takeover being the reason for a further 'embargo'... Why would it be an embargo, it wasn't before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, RoyMac5 said: Why would it be an embargo, it wasn't before? Because it may be imminent whereas it wasnt before. Total guesswork obviously. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, 1967RAMS said: He must believe a takeover is in the offing. I suspect he will leave when the transfer window closes if no money becomes available. Either by way of a takeover or Morris stumping up more cash. Can’t see the first happening and Morris is unlikely to have the decency to help us out of the mess he is solely responsible for. Just hope he doesn’t come to the stadium when matches are on. I expect the atmosphere will be toxic and he gets the reception he deserves The Mel Morris who has a very serious health problem which could well be affecting all the issues. I think your comment is disgraceful The Scarlet Pimpernel, Premier ram, IslandExile and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 36 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: The Mel Morris who has a very serious health problem which could well be affecting all the issues. I think your comment is disgraceful What’s so funny about serious Heath problems @1967RAMS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Taribo said: Does anyone know why Amazon didn’t do the documentary on us in the end? It would be absolute Prime viewing and would be a Godfather 2 to Sunderland Till I Die Rowett turned it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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