RoyMac5 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 DET: So how many new faces can Rooney add to the squad as things stand and given the criteria of 'professional standing'. It has been reported the figure could be up to five players, under the restrictions explained above, but given the criteria it appears to be four as things stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 From the DET link: GOALKEEPERS Kelle Roos, David Marshall DEFENDERS Nathan Byrne, Craig Forsyth, Lee Buchanan, Kornell McDonald, Festy Ebosele MIDFIELDERS Graeme Shinnie, Jason Knight, Krystian Bielik, Max Bird, Louie Watson, Issac Hutchinson, Louie Sibley, Jordan Brown FORWARDS: Colin Kazim-Richards, Tom Lawerence, Kamil Jozwiak, Jack Stretton JustOneBiblicalKazim, r_wilcockson, Rammy03 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Looking at that list we need some forwards. But we also need centre backs. We really are in trouble. The fact that we're debating which 4 players we should take, tells me that the club isn't close to submitting the accounts or a takeover. Why not get the entire embargo lifted? r_wilcockson and therealhantsram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Two centre halves and two strikers, midfield looks sufficient and full backs we're strong. We won't get sufficient goals from Lawrence or Joswiak, which only leaves CKR. Without more goals in the team we'll be in the same position as we were last season, or worse. r_wilcockson, Rammy03, Derby blood and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Davies, Jagielka, Wisdom, Morrison. It's Jack Stretton's season to shine. Looks to release or find clubs for Hutchinson, J.Brown, Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Yep, I'm afraid we need to release some of the youngsters who look unlikely to make it. Sad as some may be late developers, but essential. Norman, Rammy03 and sage 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 Davies, Jags, Morrison, Stearman. Build from the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmerman Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Messi, Ronaldo,chiellini,bonnucci Reckon we might miss relegation then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike93rh Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 45 minutes ago, Carnero said: Davies, Jagielka, Wisdom, Morrison. It's Jack Stretton's season to shine. Looks to release or find clubs for Hutchinson, J.Brown, Watson. You'd get rid of Louie Watson?! ?♂️ rammieib, JustOneBiblicalKazim, r_wilcockson and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Mengi, Davies, Wisdom, Morrison We need pace at centre back alongside experience. Edited July 21, 2021 by IslandExile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Mengi, Davies, Wisdom, Morrison We need pace at centre back alongside experience. Would we be able to afford Mengi currently Man U bound to want a loan fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Based on the choices: GF column (less than last season) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonwright Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Has anyone clarified the rules on long-term injuries? Seems odd to count Bielik. Maybe that's why some are saying five rather than four (he said, hopefully). Hard decisions to be made on Brown, Hutchinson, even Watson. Are we going to try to survive the season (in which case experienced players would contribute more)? Or are we planning for a future, and betting that these players would a) stay with us in League One, and b) make a difference at that sort of level? Not sure the EFL rules make a great deal of sense, even as a punishment. They are ultimately punishing not just the club but more specifically a bunch of young, inexpensive players who are neither causing nor contributing to the financial mess. Surely would make more sense to say "no more than 23 players on more than x salary", where x is either a raw number, or a percentage of average championship wage, or something like that. Edited July 21, 2021 by vonwright Dimmu, Carnero and r_wilcockson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravabeerbelly Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 51 minutes ago, Carnero said: Davies, Jagielka, Wisdom, Morrison. It's Jack Stretton's season to shine. Looks to release or find clubs for Hutchinson, J.Brown, Watson. 5 minutes ago, mike93rh said: You'd get rid of Louie Watson?! ?♂️ First of all you can’t ‘get rid’ of anyone. Second of all you can’t just release players who are under contract. There is such a thing as a contract so unless the player agrees to a mutually agreeable pay off or another club actually wants them and they agree to leave they won’t be going anywhere. I actually can’t believe that people think the solution is to ‘get rid’ of young players without considering the legalities of that let alone the logistics of it. JustOneBiblicalKazim and JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 56 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Yep, I'm afraid we need to release some of the youngsters who look unlikely to make it. Sad as some may be late developers, but essential. Sad but true. I would imagine we would let Hutchinson go on a free to let us sign a more experienced player in a position we need one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ravabeerbelly said: First of all you can’t ‘get rid’ of anyone. Second of all you can’t just release players who are under contract. There is such a thing as a contract so unless the player agrees to a mutually agreeable pay off or another club actually wants them and they agree to leave they won’t be going anywhere. I actually can’t believe that people think the solution is to ‘get rid’ of young players without considering the legalities of that let alone the logistics of it. If we find a club for them then of course they can move on a free transfer. Stop being so pedantic. The Scarlet Pimpernel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, vonwright said: Has anyone clarified the rules on long-term injuries? Seems odd to count Bielik. Maybe that's why some are saying five rather than four (he said, hopefully). Hard decisions to be made on Brown, Hutchinson, even Watson. Are we going to try to survive the season (in which case experienced players would contribute more)? Or are we planning for a future, and betting that these players would a) stay with us in League One, and b) make a difference at that sort of level? Not sure the EFL rules make a great deal of sense, even as a punishment. They are ultimately punishing not just the club but more specifically a bunch of young, inexpensive players who are neither causing nor contributing to the financial mess. Surely would make more sense to say "no more than 23 players on more than x salary", where x is either a raw number, or a percentage of average championship wage, or something like that. In our situation, it really wouldn't make sense to register him before January. Therefore, let's all get back to Pick Your 5 threat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Would we be able to afford Mengi currently Man U bound to want a loan fee? Fair point but, come on, it's for Wayne..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Everyone rightly saying we need centre backs and forwards but we don't have a competent attacking midfield player to put in a three. We need goals from midfield as well as attack. I echo the calls for Stretton to be given a chance but we still need two more firepower up front. I think the list of 19 looks incredibly weak and if we can, we should offload three or four to bring in fresh players. Gringo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Release a couple of the kids .. let them carry on training with us bit of cash in hand to tie them over and a promise to make up the difference when things are sorted easeh lol ok joking aside this is all a massive worry suggests so much that we’re scraping the barrel for loans and freebies implying we’re miles away from any sort of takeover or submitting of accounts I’m very fearful and I won’t lie I’m starting to really lose patience with Mel and co This is like a slow death of the club we all love Edited July 21, 2021 by NottsRam77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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