Gaspode Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Possibly dodgy even posting this as it will no doubt trigger some of the more vociferous memebers but it's a big story and I don't think the forum should ignore it....and obviosuly folk need to be very careful what they post (i.e. don't speculate on who or what you may think they've possibly done).... Everton have reported that they've suspended a First-Team player pending a police investigation - there were also reports earlier this morning that a 31 year old PL player has been arrested in connection to child sex offences...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Can we not mention the name of the player until it has been confirmed, that’s all I ask, but yeah it’s a huge story that can’t be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Absolutely disgusting crime. I would speculate that the fact that such a high profile player has been arrested would seem sure that they are pretty sure they can prove he is guilty. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 I won’t name the player, I heard about this a few days ago and the crime involved texting an underage girl. So whilst classed as alleged sex offence, thankfully it never got to Adam Johnson levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslad1992 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 It’s… Rebekah Vardy ? Anon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 32 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: I won’t name the player, I heard about this a few days ago and the crime involved texting an underage girl. So whilst classed as alleged sex offence, thankfully it never got to Adam Johnson levels. Yeah I saw something on Instagram about the player in question, very worrying... "I'm getting the word..." eezzeetiger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Just been on the Everton squad list with ages listed, there are only 2 x 31 year olds in their first team. Not saying anymore for obvious reasons, very troubling if true!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 5 hours ago, David said: Can we not mention the name of the player until it has been confirmed, that’s all I ask, but yeah it’s a huge story that can’t be ignored. And perhaps we can also follow the principle of innocent until proven guilty rather than guilty in the court of twitter Ted McMinn Football Genius, Ilkestonian, Angry Ram and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 9 hours ago, roboto said: Absolutely disgusting crime. I would speculate that the fact that such a high profile player has been arrested would seem sure that they are pretty sure they can prove he is guilty. I agree the crime is disgusting but what percentage of cases that the CPS put forward to prosecute an individual are then subsequently successful? I know it's not 100% so just because the CPS think that it's in the public interest this isn't (a) an indicator that the person involved is guilty and (b) means that the prosecution will then automatically be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 9 hours ago, roboto said: Absolutely disgusting crime. I would speculate that the fact that such a high profile player has been arrested would seem sure that they are pretty sure they can prove he is guilty. What has he done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) I think most on here know who it is but we'd better say nothing Edited July 20, 2021 by oldtimeram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Seems like only 2 of the 1st team squad fit the bill based on the reported age of the player under investigation. Must be horrible for the one who hasn't a clue about the charges - hopefully for his sanity they get things sorted quickly. Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 I saw this story yesterday and if guilty he should be treated very harshly *but* it could just be trial by twitter atm, innocent until proven guilty 'n all that. I've not gone seaching for the specifics but Leigh Griffiths was arrested for a similar thing a few days ago but was found to have committed no offences; https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57683426 RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 41 minutes ago, maxjam said: I saw this story yesterday and if guilty he should be treated very harshly *but* it could just be trial by twitter atm, innocent until proven guilty 'n all that. I've not gone seaching for the specifics but Leigh Griffiths was arrested for a similar thing a few days ago but was found to have committed no offences; https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57683426 Yeah I was going to mention Lee Griffith's being investigated. Not found to have committed an offence. Obviously, that doesn't necessarily mean "behaved in an acceptable way". maxjam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSD Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Innocent until proven guilty let's remember this. Many people have been accused of certain crimes, absolutely destroyed by the public, then it's been thrown out of court. cstand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Now that I have seen this thread, it explains a WhatsApp post put onto our closed group by an old friend. Very surprised, but agree that the investigation must conclude before any conclusions can be jumped to. I don't like the phrase "the public interest" either if that's being used. Too vague and nebulous, and I'm often suspicious that it is not objective. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Now that I have seen this thread, it explains a WhatsApp post put onto our closed group by an old friend. Very surprised, but agree that the investigation must conclude before any conclusions can be jumped to. I don't like the phrase "the public interest" either if that's being used. Too vague and nebulous, and I'm often suspicious that it is not objective. The Public Interest does not mean "what the public are interested in" (despite modern news reporting seeming to reflect the later) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 This story is also in the Mail Online.https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/15645989/fabian-delph-everton-wrongly-named-child-sex-offences/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslad1992 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Look at Ched Evans… Career and life ruined when he was innocent. Doesn’t matter if this player is found not guilty he will always be seen as guilty in many peoples eyes unfortunately. ramit and BucksRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 7 hours ago, SouthStandDan said: Innocent until proven guilty let's remember this. Many people have been accused of certain crimes, absolutely destroyed by the public, then it's been thrown out of court. This. What I hate about this kind of thing is that "everyone" assumes he's guilty before the case has even been heard- dirt sells. Innocent until proven guilty. The sad thing is if he is proven innocent, chances are his career will nose dive anyway. Reminds me of the Ched Evans case, albeit not exactly the same. He spent over 2 years in jail until found to be innocent on appeal following which hardly anyone wanted to know him. To this day his accuser cannot legally be named albeit she has been called out on social media. As with the Derby furore, the media love a dirty story that everyone can get on the bandwagon with when it's "in the public interest" (an expression I hate). I really, really hope this ends up like many such stories, with him being found innocent, despite everyone's pre-conceptions and what's reported in the press, but if not, then he deserves whatever he gets. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account.
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now