JfR Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 At the risk of instigating an unintentional DDoS attack, I thought some of you might be interested in this as a somewhat productive way of channelling dissatisfaction with the EFL Indy, jono, Tamworthram and 9 others 7 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, JfR said: At the risk of instigating an unintentional DDoS attack, I thought some of you might be interested in this as a somewhat productive way of channelling dissatisfaction with the EFL Just done it. I think this is worthy of a separate thread so it doesn’t get missed. Edited July 9, 2021 by Tamworthram ck-, RoyMac5 and r_wilcockson 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 28 minutes ago, JfR said: At the risk of instigating an unintentional DDoS attack, I thought some of you might be interested in this as a somewhat productive way of channelling dissatisfaction with the EFL Thank you. Specifically asks questions on continuing parachute payments, EFL performance so if you want your view on these to be registered......... r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, JfR said: At the risk of instigating an unintentional DDoS attack, I thought some of you might be interested in this as a somewhat productive way of channelling dissatisfaction with the EFL Done. Takes about 10 minutes depending on how quickly you read and how long an anti-EFL tirade you add at the end! ? Mods @GboroRam? Suggestion is a separate thread for the football governance questionnaire? Edited July 9, 2021 by RoyMac5 ck- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck- Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: how long an anti-EFL tirade you add at the end I was quite restrained: ”EFL board needs to be formally reviewed and replaced by officials with comprehensive understanding of business methodologies. Currently it is a hopelessly inadequate mess of egos and incompetence” i-Ram, RoyMac5, Gaspode and 5 others 1 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Went on the not fit for purpose line, not independent enough from clubs all acting in self interest, said P&S has been weaponised with too much focus on penalising rival clubs rather than addressing the issues (parachute payments and salaries) Also said should be greater focus on owners who own multiple clubs and use that as a way to circumvent FFP (had to get that one in!!) 48 hours, angieram, r_wilcockson and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) How many times can I fill it in and say what I really think about the EFL?! ? @JfRPut the link separate to the tweet, some people 'work' blocks access? https://dcms.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_5naM6vGayWbBJLE Edited July 9, 2021 by RoyMac5 JfR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 44 minutes ago, ck- said: I was quite restrained: ”EFL board needs to be formally reviewed and replaced by officials with comprehensive understanding of business methodologies. Currently it is a hopelessly inadequate mess of egos and incompetence” I'm proud of only stating 'unfit for purpose' once. Really wanted to finish every sentence with the same phrase..... Angry Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Completed survey. I did not have experience to understand the difference between the options to a number of the questions. I expect they will have some trouble interpreting results in some cases. Personally I would have simplified the survey with the average fan in mind. RadioactiveWaste and therealhantsram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I suspect they already have the conclusions in mind and will just want this as ammo to justify them. Cynical? It's come from government. Ken Tram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 They should simplify the survey, just ask one question. Is the EFL fit for purpose? Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Done. Will be honest and admit I didn't understand the detail of all the questions (is this really targeted at the "average" fan?) however I did get in "not fit for purpose", "incompetent, inconsistent, hypocritical" and "unethical use of P&S to target clubs trying to get in the PL..." among others. RoyMac5 and Angry Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Very misleading questionnaire which is going to bring a lot of biased results... but of course I filled it in. therealhantsram, Ken Tram and IronRam 140.6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, rammieib said: Very misleading questionnaire which is going to bring a lot of biased results... but of course I filled it in. I suspect there is already a plan and this is a bit of a tick box but I did it anyway. Possibly akin to advertising a job externally, because HR says you have to, whilst knowing already you're going to fill it internally with Billy Bob from Accounts. But maybe I'm just cynical in my old age. therealhantsram, Ken Tram and rammieib 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 50 minutes ago, ram59 said: They should simplify the survey, just ask one question. Is the EFL fit for purpose? That rather depends on what the purpose of it is. Not sure I know but I'll beetle off to the EFL site for education.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Done.. Struggled with the fan involvement at board level. Bit of a minefield that as we have seen here.. How do you appoint that group? Rams Trust, got absolutely mullered when they wrote to the club. Would it make things more devise? I dunno.. We've already seen having a fan on the board is disaster. The devil is always in the detail on these things. Ken Tram, Taribo, Reggie Greenwood and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: That rather depends on what the purpose of it is. Not sure I know but I'll beetle off to the EFL site for education.... I can confirm that I am none the wiser. Why does the EFL homepage have an article charting the history of epl player Harry kane? Is this the problem - there is only a need for one regulator and two are just jostling for position and influence? GB SPORTS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I suspect they already have the conclusions in mind and will just want this as ammo to justify them. Cynical? It's come from government. Or, the less cynical view, they think they know the likely responses but want them confirmed or dispelled before doing anything about it. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Angry Ram said: Done.. Struggled with the fan involvement at board level. Bit of a minefield that as we have seen here.. How do you appoint that group? Rams Trust, got absolutely mullered when they wrote to the club. Would it make things more devise? I dunno.. We've already seen having a fan on the board is disaster. The devil is always in the detail on these things. Agreed from my experience back in the aftermath of Maxwell when various directors were vying for power when Lionel was taking over fan groups were used to pass on messages , given platitudes and they when not useful anymore patted on the head and told to run along. Can’t think it’s changed now. Also so many politics involved in the fan groups as to who should be on the board and what the involvement should be. Angry Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 It would be different for other club's but I think the best option for us would be for someone to be voted in by ALL fans (those with customer IDs) rather than someone from Rams Trust of other supporter group. Dean (hick) Saunders and therealhantsram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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