MackworthRamIsGod Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Assuming the BBC update earlier in the week is true, let's face it there is absolutely nothing to suggest it is. Maybe the huge sticking point is the 30 million. If so, the 30 million from the stadium could swing it massively in our favour in terms of finances and may mean we can spend a bit of cash. I'd imagine the EFL would look a right set of burks if they spend all this time trying to destroy Derby and it ends up strengthening our position, Steve Gibson would be livid. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I would think for Mel to agree to this fan meeting on Weds the idea would have been for the HMRC to be paid & some signings in rather than the position we're currently in just so it eliminates abit of the fans anger/frustration RadioactiveWaste, NottsRam77 and Will Hughes Hair 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Assuming the BBC update earlier in the week is true, let's face it there is absolutely nothing to suggest it is. Maybe the huge sticking point is the 30 million. If so, the 30 million from the stadium could swing it massively in our favour in terms of finances and may mean we can spend a bit of cash. I'd imagine the EFL would look a right set of burks if they spend all this time trying to destroy Derby and it ends up strengthening our position, Steve Gibson would be livid. He sure would. I'd guess Derby are saying "OK, here's accounts for the years in question now compliant with FRS102, noting the input from the ICD/LAP ruling" and the EFL saying "No, why has anything changed other than the ammoritsation policy?" and us saying "we have to submit accounts in line with FRS102 noting the ruling, that is what we are required to do. Unless you can point to something that is not FRS102 complaint, accept them" (or more accurate fancy correctly spelled words to this effect). IF we produce accounts that put us in the clear I think everyone who isn't Steve Pearce is going to shout "VOODOO!!!!" at them. NottsRam77 and kevinhectoring 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 On 20/07/2021 at 17:48, Charlotte Ram said: The exact figure is £600,000 p.a. which is £11,538/week Heard to the contrary now... "Nixon wrote in The Sun on Sunday previously (25.07. 21, pg. 62) that Derby were being restricted to one-year deals on new signings, on a maximum wage of £4,500-a-week." https://the72.co.uk/243312/alan-nixon-provides-major-Derby-county-transfer-update-as-championship-start-date-beckons/ Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rample said: Heard to the contrary now... "Nixon wrote in The Sun on Sunday previously (25.07. 21, pg. 62) that Derby were being restricted to one-year deals on new signings, on a maximum wage of £4,500-a-week." https://the72.co.uk/243312/alan-nixon-provides-major-Derby-county-transfer-update-as-championship-start-date-beckons/ No chance of anyone stellar at that salary cap, and that salary cap is less than the £11,000/week other clubs were/are allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, Spanish said: Some believe that even using the standard amortisation we would be ok, are they wrong? Dunno. Liked @RoyMac5’s response. I’d have thought applying straight line amortisation is not something you’d have a dispute about. Maybe one issue relates to the stadium sale and how much profit is taken in each period. That in turn might impact HMRC issues. The problem is, at every turn Mel has added another layer of complexity and it’s all come home to roost. And I guess he’s having also to deal with buyers’ expectations which reduces his room for manoeuvre RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Rample said: Heard to the contrary now... "Nixon wrote in The Sun on Sunday previously (25.07. 21, pg. 62) that Derby were being restricted to one-year deals on new signings, on a maximum wage of £4,500-a-week." https://the72.co.uk/243312/alan-nixon-provides-major-Derby-county-transfer-update-as-championship-start-date-beckons/ Not seen anyone quote that bar Nixon then, have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslad1992 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Foreveram said: If we win all our games we will be in the premier league and then the efl can do one They can do one anyway… absolute joke of an organisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, Rample said: Heard to the contrary now... "Nixon wrote in The Sun on Sunday previously (25.07. 21, pg. 62) that Derby were being restricted to one-year deals on new signings, on a maximum wage of £4,500-a-week." Perversely, this might help us in negotiations with players and their agents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Not seen anyone quote that bar Nixon then, have you? It was the same figure Bolton had to operate within when they were under an embargo in the championship in 2018. Out of interest they finished 23rd, 12 points from safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rample said: It was the same figure Bolton had to operate within when they were under an embargo in the championship in 2018. Out of interest they finished 23rd, 12 points from safety. It would seem strange to set a limit which the EFL and the club know is unaffordable. Far better to set the limit on a case by case basis, whatever that amount is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 If that figure is correct, it is very low. Bobby Duncan said to be on £3,500 per week. Hardly kicked a ball for any of our teams. Andrew3000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) Nixon has said previously that the restrictions keep changing, the lower wage amount may have been the compromise to remove the professional standing ruling for the Chorley players but we're in discussions with the EFL to increase it. Does make sense with what Rooney has said when saying it wasnt enough that we can now sign 4 players as it doesnt matter if its 0 or 4, at that wage none of the triallists will sign on that low a wage. Edited July 30, 2021 by DCFC1388 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 46 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: I would think for Mel to agree to this fan meeting on Weds the idea would have been for the HMRC to be paid & some signings in rather than the position we're currently in just so it eliminates abit of the fans anger/frustration In an absolute nutshell this you would think wouldn’t u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I think @David will need his gum shield in on Wednesday if things don’t start falling into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 59 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: I would think for Mel to agree to this fan meeting on Weds the idea would have been for the HMRC to be paid & some signings in rather than the position we're currently in just so it eliminates abit of the fans anger/frustration Is that when that meeting is Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Rooney did say certain restrictions remain, so maybe he meant the wage restrictions meant none of the trialists were willing to sign on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Spanish said: Some believe that even using the standard amortisation we would be ok, are they wrong? I have a feeling we're going to be using a new amortisation policy, wack the £30m stadium money in there and push as much amortisation into those years as possible. Straight-line leaves us in a tight position, so why not ease that issue if we can do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Topram said: Is that when that meeting is Wednesday Yes according to the 'Supporters Charter Meeting Questions' thread hintonsboots, angieram and Topram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Rample said: Heard to the contrary now... "Nixon wrote in The Sun on Sunday previously (25.07. 21, pg. 62) that Derby were being restricted to one-year deals on new signings, on a maximum wage of £4,500-a-week." https://the72.co.uk/243312/alan-nixon-provides-major-Derby-county-transfer-update-as-championship-start-date-beckons/ We've successfully proven with our transfers dealings over recent years that there's no direct correlation between a players salary and the skill of that player likewise. jono and MuespachRam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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