DCFC1388 Posted July 8, 2021 Author Share Posted July 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ramslad1992 said: I really hope this is announced at half time during the United game… he plays the first half for Man U and then just comes out in a Derby shirt 2nd half! Thats what i was thinking may happen. Derby blood and JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 06/07/2021 at 15:23, BriggRam said: Talk to me Sam Show some respect will you Look he is generally guys and no fake met him spoke to him when he was alive. SFox1993 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, B4ev6is said: Show some respect will you Look he is generally guys and no fake met him spoke to him when he was alive. I didn't see that response coming hintonsboots and Rample 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 7 hours ago, BriggRam said: I didn't see that response coming You should have asked Sam (sorry b4 - too good an opportunity to miss....) BriggRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Billy Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 We can't even sign him (an 18 year old academy player on loan..) at the moment .......thanks Mel https://the72.co.uk/241734/Derby-county-have-agreement-in-place-for-manchester-uniteds-teden-mengi-to-join/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sport Billy said: We can't even sign him (an 18 year old academy player on loan..) at the moment .......thanks Mel https://the72.co.uk/241734/Derby-county-have-agreement-in-place-for-manchester-uniteds-teden-mengi-to-join/ Absolute shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, Sport Billy said: We can't even sign him (an 18 year old academy player on loan..) at the moment .......thanks Mel https://the72.co.uk/241734/Derby-county-have-agreement-in-place-for-manchester-uniteds-teden-mengi-to-join/ From the embargo limits I presume that means Man Utd either want a fee or additional wages or both for Mengi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFox1993 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Probably will develop into a good player , but from what i saw last season im not sure he would be top of the loan players id be looking at signing tbh. If available id prefer Jarrad Branthwaite 6ft 4/5 , not to slow and commanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Maybe a good thing that we can’t even progress a Menghi type transfer. It will really focus the mind of the club to sort the umbongo out at pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alty_Ram Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Sigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 28 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: From the embargo limits I presume that means Man Utd either want a fee or additional wages or both for Mengi? Or we have too many players of 'professional standing' so we can't sign anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Or we have too many players of 'professional standing' so we can't sign anyone There's always the nuclear option of releasing all of the kids that played against Chorley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Or we have too many players of 'professional standing' so we can't sign anyone Even on loan? Missed that bit. Be different if we paid up the transfer payments & HMRC, wonder how much we owe on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Carnero said: There's always the nuclear option of releasing all of the kids that played against Chorley! Players of professional standing: 26 Established players: 10 I imagine loaning would work just as effectively? Hutchinson, Duncan, JBrown, Watson and one of McDonald or Ebosele is about as much as we can do though, and only frees up space for 2 CBs 24 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Even on loan? Missed that bit. Be different if we paid up the transfer payments & HMRC, wonder how much we owe on that? The EFL site is a tad confusing. It states we can only 'staff up' to 23 professional standing players (1 league app) - loan or free. Loans can only be 6 months, frees can only be up to the end of the season. Then further down the page it says 'established players' for Championship clubs, where an 'established player' is someone who is 21 or over with 5 starts We can however, ask the EFL to make an exception, but that seems unlikely. It's not just HMRC and transfer instalments we still need to submit the accounts before exiting the embargo. Edited July 9, 2021 by Ghost of Clough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Players of professional standing: 26 Established players: 10 I imagine loaning would work just as effectively? Hutchinson, Duncan, JBrown, Watson and one of McDonald or Ebosele is about as much as we can do though, and only frees up space for 2 CBs I'm more on about the lads who we have no clue whether they'll ever progress to our real first team such as Bardell, Solomon, Agathise, Ibrahim, Hutchinson, Thompson, Williams, Duncan. I'm not seriously suggesting it anyway but it's an option. Not sure loans out work to reduce the established player number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: It's not just HMRC and transfer instalments we still need to submit the accounts before exiting the embargo. Yeah. I thought the embargo was less stringent in case of P&S and accounts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, Carnero said: I'm more on about the lads who we have no clue whether they'll ever progress to our real first team such as Bardell, Solomon, Agathise, Ibrahim, Hutchinson, Thompson, Williams, Duncan. I'm not seriously suggesting it anyway but it's an option. Not sure loans out work to reduce the established player number? I know what you mean but that would reduce the U23 squad to 9 players. It would come down to the risk of losing potential value from those 8 vs the cost of hiring 5 first teamers for no re-sale value and have a better chance of staying up? I'd expect loaning players out to reduce the count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Gaspode said: You should have asked Sam (sorry b4 - too good an opportunity to miss....) My spirit guide is called Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 Ryan Conway saying this loan deal is agreed in principle but Mengi is to stay with United for preseason then join us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 He'll play against us in that friendly, one of our u23s will injure him for the season. Then it'll transpire that we have to pay his loan fee and wages while he's out. He'll then magically be fit for next season, at which point he'll go to another team in the Championship and be the player of the season. There's a bit of positivity for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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