RadioactiveWaste Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 You know who wins another Stage. He's having an amazing tour. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 33 for Cav with his 3rd stage. Nice symmetry. Innit. 34 on the chomps? RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Interesting comments from Cavendish about the BikeExchange team and their tactics to try and prevent him getting the green jersey, One instance being to try and ensure he missed the cut in the mountain stage, presumably by not helping in the back 'bus' of struggling sprinters. Apparently Greipel dad to sprint to get inside the time limit. Today they tried to drop him on a long drag about 20k from the finish. As he said, they're not riding to win, thet'ye riding to make other people lose. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Phoenix said: Interesting comments from Cavendish about the BikeExchange team and their tactics to try and prevent him getting the green jersey, One instance being to try and ensure he missed the cut in the mountain stage, presumably by not helping in the back 'bus' of struggling sprinters. Apparently Greipel dad to sprint to get inside the time limit. Today they tried to drop him on a long drag about 20k from the finish. As he said, they're not riding to win, thet'ye riding to make other people lose. I was half watching (working from home, eh?) and there did seem to be a lot of activity earlier towards then end and the Quickstep really had to work to get him up near the sprint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 The drag wasn't steep enough to drop cav after a rest day and hopefully the ventoux last climb won't be too bad tommoro. DKQ had it sewn up today and will continue to protect him as their main objective. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 I will be interested to see how AG2R ride tommoro to protect O'connor to see if he has a realistic chance of podium. Doing it on one stage is one thing. 4 or 5 mountain days are another. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 On 05/07/2021 at 08:54, Duracell said: Thanks for taking time to respond @RadioactiveWaste @Chester40 @RoyMac5 @86 Hair Islands Understood the idea behind why the Yellow jersey mattered most but before @RadioactiveWaste explained that sprinters are usually weak climbers, it didn't make sense to me how the sprinters weren't also the yellow jersey winners. Makes sense now, thank you! Hope you are enjoying It. You have picked a great one to watch, It is gripping. I sat down to watch 2 minutes of It yesterday and 2 hours later realised I was 5 cups of tea deep and I hadn’t moved due to It than the kitchen! RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 For those of you agog to know how the time limits are set for the strugglers (e.g. sprinters on mountainous stages - too much fast twitch fibre) here's all you need to know. As it says, it's possibly a bit out of date but gives you the gist. https://www.stason.org/TULARC/sports/bicycles/5-5-Tour-de-France-Time-Limits.html RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Cyclists did some cycling today. Just catching up with the highlights now. DenmarkRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 So much respect for Cav! I have to admit, I thought his chance at the record had gone years ago when he couldn't beat Greipel, Kittel, Ewan etc. in sprints he usually would've dominated, but chapeau to him for keeping going and working hard to get back to the top of his game. He's been a revelation this season. I wouldn't put it past him getting at least 2 more wins before the tour is over. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Massive respect to Cav. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Big mountain stage today. Looking forward to it. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Good race today on Bastille day, be great if Perez can hang on, but I don’t think he is going to. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Amazing today. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 One thing I don't understand is why the leader absolutely busts a lung to win a stage by a few seconds when he's minutes in the lead. Surely just saving yourself and finishing with them/just behind them at a slower pace is more sensible than risking a crash or using up more energy than need be. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 19 hours ago, JoetheRam said: One thing I don't understand is why the leader absolutely busts a lung to win a stage by a few seconds when he's minutes in the lead. Surely just saving yourself and finishing with them/just behind them at a slower pace is more sensible than risking a crash or using up more energy than need be. In 89 or 88 I’m not sure which year Greg leMond won the tour by 8 seconds, I guess they are all naturally competitive and every second could count. RadioactiveWaste and JoetheRam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 So, will Mark Cavendish make history today? That's the final question to resolve in the tour. Whilst Pog dominated the GC, there's been all sorts of interesting other stories thoughout the race. It's been under the radar, but both Froome and Thomas despite being bashed up early on have made big efforts to get to the end, Cav matching the record when it looked like his top class days had gone a couple of years ago, Wout Van Aert putting in heroic rides all over on all kinds of stages, breakaway wins, a team hotel raid (nothing found but..................) a close KOM competition until the end (oh, there's millions of points on the last two mountain stages and Pog gets all the points). I also stumbled across Lance Armstrong's podcast on youtube (it's called The Move) and, yup, he's got no regrets and 100% doesn't think he did anything wrong which is tragic and hilarious in equal measure although he does know what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, RadioactiveWaste said: So, will Mark Cavendish make history today? That's the final question to resolve in the tour. Whilst Pog dominated the GC, there's been all sorts of interesting other stories thoughout the race. It's been under the radar, but both Froome and Thomas despite being bashed up early on have made big efforts to get to the end, Cav matching the record when it looked like his top class days had gone a couple of years ago, Wout Van Aert putting in heroic rides all over on all kinds of stages, breakaway wins, a team hotel raid (nothing found but..................) a close KOM competition until the end (oh, there's millions of points on the last two mountain stages and Pog gets all the points). I also stumbled across Lance Armstrong's podcast on youtube (it's called The Move) and, yup, he's got no regrets and 100% doesn't think he did anything wrong which is tragic and hilarious in equal measure although he does know what he's talking about. Lances podcast is great, like you say, he knows what he is talking about and is very good at saying It…..he can never admit he regrets It, even if he does. fingers crossed for Cav today that he will make history. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: Lances podcast is great, like you say, he knows what he is talking about and is very good at saying It…..he can never admit he regrets It, even if he does. fingers crossed for Cav today that he will make history. Yeah, I get that. In a way I do admire his refusal to play the fake hand wringing "I'm so sorry I feel awful please forgive me" game and it's true that doping was utterly entrenched in pro-cycling at the time, so was he really worse than anyone else. I remember reading about Festina a while ago and the sad/amusing irony being they were underperforming because they didn't have an effiient doping scheme then got caught bungling trying to get the stuff (which is a way different to the popular memory of "oh Festina, they were the team that was the worst for doping and that massive scandle) I think the thing I do feel bad towards him for is the people who he crushed to protect the lie (who were, it turns out, trying to do the right thing). But his podcast is good chat and having George Hincape on provides a good balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Yeah, I get that. In a way I do admire his refusal to play the fake hand wringing "I'm so sorry I feel awful please forgive me" game and it's true that doping was utterly entrenched in pro-cycling at the time, so was he really worse than anyone else. I remember reading about Festina a while ago and the sad/amusing irony being they were underperforming because they didn't have an effiient doping scheme then got caught bungling trying to get the stuff (which is a way different to the popular memory of "oh Festina, they were the team that was the worst for doping and that massive scandle) I think the thing I do feel bad towards him for is the people who he crushed to protect the lie (who were, it turns out, trying to do the right thing). But his podcast is good chat and having George Hincape on provides a good balance. He was certainly the best rider out there in his day and without doubt the best at covering his tracks….but like you say, what a truly terrible person he was to some of the people trying to put him. have you listened to Wiggins podcast..? He is incredibly knowledgeable on the sport but It does feel like he says 75% of the things he does just to cause a reaction. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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