Graeme Shinnie - Jack Stamps Player of the Season

[1977 Ram Raider]

My second choice behind Byrne, congrats Shinnie.

[Ramslad1992]

I voted for him... and I mean this in no disrespect but it goes to show how poor our season was that he won. 
 

I voted for him based on he seemed to try the hardest. He’s a really good player but the fact he’s won player of the year shows how poo we were. 
 

well done to him though. ?
 

[AndyinLiverpool]

4 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

I'm a bit surprised, I thought it would be CKR, Bielik or Byrne.

However I love Shinnie and I'm sure it's a recognition that he has absolutly given his all for the cause.

There's no way they'd give it to Bielik. It would make the manager look bad

[Van der MoodHoover]

1 minute ago, Ramslad1992 said:

I voted for him based on he seemed to try the hardest. He’s a really good player but the fact he’s won player of the year shows how poo we were 

This read a bit contradictory. Do you think he's a really good player or is he a hard tryer in a poor team? 

[Chris_Martin]

Marlon Pack robbed. Despite us trying everything to get out this division, he refused to give in, kept going right to the final few minutes of the season, scoring that heart breaking goal in injury time of the final game.

Sometimes you have to just sit back and acknowledge,  What. A. Player. 

[Ramslad1992]

13 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

This read a bit contradictory. Do you think he's a really good player or is he a hard tryer in a poor team? 

 A bit of both I suppose. He shouldn’t be a really good player but compared to his teammates I think he is. He should be the anonymous type who you don’t really appreciate but gets the job done.  
 

we shouldn’t be in a position to vote for Shinnie but at the same time it’s very difficult to argue he shouldn’t get it.

[Chris_Martin]

1 minute ago, Ramslad1992 said:

 A bit of both I suppose. He shouldn’t be a really good player but compared to his teammates I think he is. He should be the anonymous type who you don’t really appreciate but gets the job done.  
 

we shouldn’t be in a position to vote for Shinnie but at the same time it’s very difficult to argue he shouldn’t get it.

why???

[Pearl Ram]

Shinnie got my vote which just goes to prove, as usual, I’m right and those who disagree are wrong. ?

[Van der MoodHoover]

10 minutes ago, Ramslad1992 said:

 A bit of both I suppose. He shouldn’t be a really good player but compared to his teammates I think he is. He should be the anonymous type who you don’t really appreciate but gets the job done.  
 

we shouldn’t be in a position to vote for Shinnie but at the same time it’s very difficult to argue he shouldn’t get it.

Fair play mate. 

Can't even remember whether or not I voted for him tbh. 

But in a crap season, the efforts of a few could have made the difference between survival and disaster. 

[Jimbo Ram]

The only times we were able to dominate and win midfield battles was when Bielik played. So often we were second best in that department with the likes of Shinnie being unable to impose himself on games. That’s why he would have been my third or fourth choice. He does work hard though...

[vivalafiga46]

Obviously there's a lack of viable alternative recipients, but I'm actually disappointed that Shinnie has picked up an award of such prestige.

He's neither a sound defensive screen, creative outlet or attacking threat. He is part of a midfield that is regularly overrun, he lacks bite in the tackle, he doesn't make an effort to join attacks or to get in to the box. I never get the impression that he's keen to take the responsibility to drive us on. Like others, he's happy to sit passing backwards and from side to side.

He's not the only culprit and certainly not the worst one, but we are talking about our POTY here. Shinnie has won it by just running around a bit. 

We need far more from a Derby County central midfielder in my opinion. We need them to either have the ability and the balls to take responsibility to drive the team forwards, or the tactical awareness and bite to to be an effective defensive screen. 

Obviously the fans, by majority, have made the decision to vote for him, so fair play. 

Bielik would have walked it without the injury.

[angieram]

I nearly didn't post the two tweets about player and young player of the season because I knew it would invite people to pour in with their criticisms. And it has.

But I thought it might make a change to start a thread where people might have something nice to say for a change. Apparently not.

 

 

[Jimbo Ram]

1 hour ago, angieram said:

I nearly didn't post the two tweets about player and young player of the season because I knew it would invite people to pour in with their criticisms. And it has.

But I thought it might make a change to start a thread where people might have something nice to say for a change. Apparently not.

 

 

Isn’t debating things like this what this forum is all about ? I haven’t read any really derogatory comments about Shinnie, just some comments supporting him being POTY and others on why they think otherwise.

[i-Ram]

1 hour ago, angieram said:

I nearly didn't post the two tweets about player and young player of the season because I knew it would invite people to pour in with their criticisms. And it has.

But I thought it might make a change to start a thread where people might have something nice to say for a change. Apparently not.

Shinnie won you say.

[Brammie Steve]

3 hours ago, Pearl Ram said:

Shinnie got my vote which just goes to prove, as usual, I’m right and those who disagree are wrong. ?

Same here, great minds coupled with natural modesty!

[Ramslad1992]

4 hours ago, Chris_Martin said:

why???

He’s a good player and I rate him... I voted for him! But he’s not the sort of player who should win player of the year. He’s basically won it because he’s been average and tried. We’ve had an absolutely awful season, if it was good he wouldn’t be anywhere near player of the year. 
 

like I said fair play to him and he deserves it IMO. I guess it’s just sad that I voted for him on effort more than ability. 

[Boycie]

I thought we’d all agreed to vote Beleik?

[angieram]

9 hours ago, Brammie Steve said:

Same here, great minds coupled with natural modesty!

Me too, and Lee! ?

[angieram]

7 hours ago, Boycie said:

I thought we’d all agreed to vote Beleik?

Haha, no we were told that was the only thing to do. Us Derbyshire lot don't like being told what to do! 

[1967Ram]

Totally deserved in my opinion. As I've said before I think Shinnie's very underrated by many. Obviously not as underrated as I feared though. He would definitely be my choice for Captain next season.