Ghost of Clough Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said: Could it be that we were under a soft embargo when Marriott was offered the new contract and the terms exceeded the allowed amount under that embargo. That's only a guess and not fact but it does seem very strange that the EFL would do that. That shouldn't apply to players already at the club if offered terms equal to or lower than the existing deal, even if exceeding the limit for a new signing. Steve How Hard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRS94 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: We currently have 2 in the first team, and they're very likely to sign on for at least another year. Signing 1 or 2 CBs should not be "absolutely terrifying". 15/16 - Pearce and Shackell 14/15 - Whitbread and Shotton 12/13 - Keogh and O'Connor 11/12 - Shackell, Riggott and Naylor 09/10 - Barker and Buxton Ah no worries then sounds like we’ve got recruitment sorted I see no further issue with us finding a decent centre half as long as they bring their insoles ? i-Ram and GenBr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) We can’t even bring out a retained list without some unclear twist to it. Bit bored of it all now tbh Edited June 14, 2021 by TuffLuff taffyram, Sparkle and Carl Sagan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, DRS94 said: Ah no worries then sounds like we’ve got recruitment sorted I see no further issue with us finding a decent centre half as long as they bring their insoles ? "absolutely terrifying" was pointless hyperbole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 The new Marriott twist is rather interesting ? Seems silly wasn’t it giving IBE more than a year on a contract until we actually saw him playing on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 29 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: That shouldn't apply to players already at the club if offered terms equal to or lower than the existing deal, even if exceeding the limit for a new signing. That's assuming the embargo is soft. I don't recall seeing any confirmation either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldben Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Glad to finally have the list. 14 first team players contracted, the Marriott statement is 'interesting'. Unless a number of extra players signed this team will be torn to pieces in the championship next season. The team should consist of about 23 players. Rooney doesn't instill confidence in me. If last seasons form continues into next season, I reckon Rooney has 2 months at the club, in those circumstances and with a potential points deduction he will not deserve to stay. A run of results like last season is possible so maybe 2 months at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: That's assuming the embargo is soft. I don't recall seeing any confirmation either way. Even with the hardest of hard embargoes I'd be surprised if we weren't allowed to extend an existing deal, especially due to current squad size and ratio of wage bill to (non-covid) revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Oldben said: Glad to finally have the list. 14 first team players contracted, the Marriott statement is 'interesting'. Unless a number of extra players signed this team will be torn to pieces in the championship next season. The team should consist of about 23 players. Rooney doesn't instill confidence in me. If last seasons form continues into next season, I reckon Rooney has 2 months at the club, in those circumstances and with a potential points deduction he will not deserve to stay. A run of results like last season is possible so maybe 2 months at the club. Cheer up - we won the top league in the land with 12 players Carl Sagan and i-Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Jubbs said: But 14 doesn't include players like Watson, Ebosele, McDonald etc who were starting to feature more We can't keep relying on academy players. Not all of them will be ready or good enough to make the step up. We need more senior pros or we're in big trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Trav Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 that team needs at least 10 new signing just to keep us in the division next season. Otherwise I think we’ll be dropping down a couple of divisions soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 I suspect there will be a lot of very jealous owners, chief executives and finance directors who couldn’t hope to get thier costs down to our levels currently we might even sell Lawrence before his contract expires next summer and jozwiak if he has a good euro championship bimmerman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRS94 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 42 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: "absolutely terrifying" was pointless hyperbole Pointless hyperbole? You mean pointlessly saying something not meant to be taken seriously which you seem to have taken quite seriously? Maybe I’m confused ??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 38 minutes ago, Big Trav said: that team needs at least 10 new signing just to keep us in the division next season. Otherwise I think we’ll be dropping down a couple of divisions soon. positive stuff from you , i like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 43 minutes ago, Big Trav said: that team needs at least 10 new signing just to keep us in the division next season. Otherwise I think we’ll be dropping down a couple of divisions soon. New New New New New Bielik New New New New New I like it Derby4Me, Animal is a Ram, GenBr and 6 others 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Oldben said: Glad to finally have the list. 14 first team players contracted, the Marriott statement is 'interesting'. Unless a number of extra players signed this team will be torn to pieces in the championship next season. The team should consist of about 23 players. Rooney doesn't instill confidence in me. If last seasons form continues into next season, I reckon Rooney has 2 months at the club, in those circumstances and with a potential points deduction he will not deserve to stay. A run of results like last season is possible so maybe 2 months at the club. What has a potential points deduction got to do with whether Rooney deserves to stay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 In and amongst all the chatter about prospective first team performance perhaps we ought to spare a thought for those under 23s that aren't having their contracts renewed. Whenever I've watched them play a feature of the 23s has been their commitment to themselves, the club and their teammates. It's a tough world the football game and being very publicly told that 'you're not good enough' at the age of 20 odd must be very hard, especially at a time when hundreds of others are being told the same thing, when all you've dreamt of being is a footballer. This retained list is the public affirmation of something they've probably known for a while. I guess it can't be easy for Darren Wassall (particularly given the decision about Ethan) and his team either. It also adds to the feeling that having an artificial age limit makes it even more ruthless. Why 23? Some may not develop as people and footballers until they're 25. At least with the old reserve team football you could allow someone to 'make it' that little bit later angieram, Ravabeerbelly, Carl Sagan and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Can someone explain how Marriott's renewal got rejected by the EFL in Dec due to an embargo around registration of players yet the following month we signed/registered 5 loan players then in Feb CKR extended his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Can someone explain how Marriott's renewal got rejected by the EFL in Dec due to an embargo around registration of players yet the following month we signed/registered 5 loan players then in Feb CKR extended his contract? No embargo was mentioned by club. The rejection of the registration could be down to any number of administrative issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: New New New New New Bielik New New New New New I like it Bielik should be back by Christmas so it’s optimistic at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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