Ghost of Clough Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 13 hours ago, TexasRam said: They’re not, Albania, Andorra, San Marino are not better than Championship clubs. Albania who have players at Lazio, Napoli and Atalanta? Ramarena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandram Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 hours ago, TexasRam said: Claude Davis was a Jamaican international and Mikkel Beck a Danish international both graced England’s top division. both were bloody awful beck was worst player i ever saw in a rams shirt Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Ah okay, thinking about it I suppose it matters where the final year value starts from, rather than where it finishes. Not enough cups of tea before writing that post! Do we know what sort of value players like Lawrence, Waggy and Wisdom are likely to have been on at the start of their contracts final year? too difficult to know and if they supplied that sort of detail it lets other clubs know what we expect to sell for. The way ERV is calculated has never been documented so there is a risk that our financial situation may lead someone to kick the can down the road on the annual amortisation, we just don't know. This is how it should probably work; Tom paid £5m for him 5 years ago. He is an international 27 yo and has certain skills not much on show for us tho. Anybody's guess but really we should get £3m for him if you can sell him up to year 4. Contract expires 30/6/22. He should be amortised at £500k pa for the first 4 years. If he is sold before the end of June the Y5 amortisation will be the difference between what we get for him and £3m. After then as at 1/7/21 he is worth nothing. It is remotely possibly that we could sell him in his final year if another club was desperate but in the current environment he is best served by waiting and picking up a pay packet that he is unlikely to find elsewhere. But there is nothing to stop the club saying he is worth £5m up to y4 and not amortise a penny. Then extend his contract but that is another story which will be a mystery wrapped in an enigma. Waggy's contract expires at the end of next month so should already be zero. Given his age and record I guess the club would have maintained a high ERV for him same for wissy My apologies if I got anything wrong here and happy to be corrected on factual mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Albania who have players at Lazio, Napoli and Atalanta? And your point is? They also have players at Ipswich and Boston United Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) Edit. Edited May 19, 2021 by RoyMac5 Jimbo Ram and Comrade 86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Sadly for Bielik I suspect he is now firmly in George Thorne territory after two really bad knee injuries. Hope for him and us that this is not the case.... Brammie Steve and JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Spanish said: Too difficult to know and if they supplied that sort of detail it lets other clubs know what we expect to sell for. The way ERV is calculated has never been documented so there is a risk that our financial situation may lead someone to kick the can down the road on the annual amortisation, we just don't know. This is how it should probably work; Ta. I guess I was wondering what effect keeping/not keeping Tom would have on our P&S figures. Will we gain more from keeping Waggy and Wissy than by letting them go? That seems to be the main area of contention in our current financial crises. Edited May 19, 2021 by RoyMac5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, TexasRam said: He didn’t against Rotherham, Wycombe, Luton, Coventry etc etc etc Unlike (has a think about who in our team might have played well, struggles to think of anyone to name)....er... Holland, pah. Pub team at best. Regardless of whether Joz is a good player underperforming here, or a crap player who had a couple of good international games - we're in a weak position. We will get significantly less for him than he might go for if we were selling from a position of strength. We really are screwed. No money, and we're in a position where clubs will be circling ready to pick off our best talent at bargain prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 minute ago, GboroRam said: Unlike (has a think about who in our team might have played well, struggles to think of anyone to name)....er... Holland, pah. Pub team at best. Regardless of whether Joz is a good player underperforming here, or a crap player who had a couple of good international games - we're in a weak position. We will get significantly less for him than he might go for if we were selling from a position of strength. We really are screwed. No money, and we're in a position where clubs will be circling ready to pick off our best talent at bargain prices. I think but I can’t remember that was my whole point, we don’t have assets who will fetch any significant value. So unless we get investment and sharpish we’re in the poo. And for clarity, I think Joz looks a poor player international or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, TexasRam said: And for clarity, I think Joz looks a poor player international or not. He's 23 yrs old in his first season in England, I think he looks to have lots of potential. May Contain Nuts and GboroRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Just now, RoyMac5 said: He's 23 yrs old in his first season in England, I think he looks to have lots of potential. When has he showed lots of potential? 1 goal 2 assists in 41 appearances for a forward player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Transfers? What, like the Batman stickers on my car? Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 12 hours ago, DCFC1388 said: Given Rooneys Everton & Man United links I think there are a few youngsters we could have an eye on - United Mengi - right footed centre back, on loan last year, well known we would like him back Garner - centre mid, had loans at Watford & Forest, likely to go out on loan again, can see him going back to Forest Traore - 6ft 2 centre mid, can play defensive mid too, been out on loan at Ligue 2 side Caen Shoretire - right footed winger, mainly plays on the left, yes we have a few like this but the more attacking players in our squad the better Everton Gibson - 20 year old left footed centre back. Had a spell on loan at Fleetwood in 19/20 then been on loan at Reading this season making 13 appearances. Also able to play left back Baningime - defensive midfielder, last year of his deal and been on loan to us already. We didnt see much of him and I feel like he was a victim of the number of loans we had and 1 having to miss out, with our forward & centre back issues he was the easiest to leave out. Rooney has played with him as well so will know if he can improve us Simms - young striker, hot prospect, had a decent loan spell at Blackpool this season Unles he was injured and we didn’t know then I think Baningime was just a poor signing. One of Gregory and Edmundson were injured and he still only appeared once or twice, not sure it had anything to do loan numbers Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Unless he was injured and we didn’t know then I think Baningime was just a poor signing. He was injured some of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 3 hours ago, TexasRam said: Claude Davis was a Jamaican international and Mikkel Beck a Danish international both graced England’s top division. Claude Davis was utterly atrocious islandram and GboroRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Derbados said: Claude Davis was utterly atrocious It’s kind of my point about, just because someone’s an international doesn’t make them a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Unles he was injured and we didn’t know then I think Baningime was just a poor signing. One of Gregory and Edmundson were injured and he still only appeared once or twice, not sure it had anything to do loan numbers I'm sure when Gregory & Edmundson were injured Baningime was injured as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Lee grant is being released by United. Anybody else take him on a free? He’d easily be first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said: Lee grant is being released by United. Anybody else take him on a free? He’d easily be first choice. No thanks still remember him punching them in his own net for fun v Wolves and Leeds DCFC1388 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said: Lee grant is being released by United. Anybody else take him on a free? He’d easily be first choice. I know keepers age better than outfield players but at 38 he’s even older than Marshall. Reggie Greenwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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